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Kentucky Wildcats 57, Georgia Bulldogs 44: The Instantaneous Ill-Informed Roundball Wrapup

The top-ranked Kentucky Wildcats rolled into the Classic City on Tuesday night, and they found Stegeman Coliseum rocking and Mark Fox’s Georgia Bulldogs fired up and ready to play. In the end, though, it didn’t matter, as the visitors justified their ranking in a 57-44 win over the Red and Black.

The Athenians did not go gentle into that good night, however. In the outing’s opening 37 seconds, Terrence Jones gave the visitors a two-point lead and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope tied it up with a jump shot at the other end of the floor. Thanks to three-pointers by Nemanja Djurisic, the home team hung tough, building a 14-11 advantage before the Blue and White went on a 10-0 run to carve out a football-like 21-14 lead.

Star-divide

Ill-considered heaves launched by the Athenians from distant spots on the floor and at inopportune moments on the shot clock allowed the Kentuckians to surge ahead, but the Red and Black otherwise generally played with intelligence as well as intensity in the early going. It was no mystery what kept the Fox Hounds in the game: Georgia stayed with the No. 1 team in the country when securing takeaways, avoiding fouls, pulling down rebounds, driving to the basket, and keeping Kentucky on the perimeter. When the roles were reversed, John Calipari’s team performed exactly as advertised.

Djurisic and Donte` Williams narrowed the deficit to 23-22, but the final six minutes of the first half belonged to the Wildcats, who carried a 38-26 lead into the locker room. The Hoop Dogs, in the meantime, missed 15 shots in the final 14 minutes prior to intermission, eight of which were fired from beyond the arc. Georgia went three of eleven from downtown in the first 20 minutes while draining barely more than one-third of their shots from the field (11 of 30), but the Red and Black had some bright spots before the break, as well. The Bulldogs turned six Kentucky turnovers into an equal number of points, matched the ‘Cats exactly with 14 points in the paint, and corralled the same number of offensive rebounds as the visitors (4).

Unfortunately, the initial 20 minutes also saw the Blue and White bench pour in 19 points while the Wildcats snared 16 defensive boards. That set the tone heading into the second half, which began with the Williams jumper that cut the deficit to ten points but thereafter was followed by a missed Caldwell-Pope three-point try, a Gerald Robinson turnover, and a foul on Caldwell-Pope. Kentucky stretched its lead to 15 points with 17 minutes remaining, and that was the ballgame.

This game was as frustrating as the loss to Ole Miss, but for an entirely different reason. The Hoop Dogs proved at the beginning of the night that they are capable of playing with (quite literally) the best team in the land, but they were unable to hold on despite solid efforts from Djurisic (10 points, 5 rebounds), Robinson (6 points, 5 rebounds, 3 steals, 3 assists), and Dustin Ware (12 points, 2 steals).

There certainly are encouraging signs evident in Stegeman Coliseum, and the crowd there tonight certainly saw them. Coach Fox, who appears so professorial in repose, demonstrated yet again his intensity, once more going off on an inadequate official at courtside while appearing for all the world like a fiery librarian. That energy is translating to Coach Fox’s team, but it is not enough to have heart at the start; this team still needs to learn how to fight to the finish. When the Athenians absorb that lesson and execute it, it will be something to see, indeed, but, though it will happen eventually, I doubt it will happen this year.

Go ‘Dawgs!

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It doesnt matter if you're playing Ole MIss or UK, if you can't score 50pts in 35 minutes, you are very likley to loose.

And a great 1st Half doesnt mean much when we have had a whole lot of bad second half. The only surprise is UK didnt put 70 on us. Perhaps playing down to the competition.

This...

I am not convinced this team is headed in the right direction because we were able to hang with Kentucky for 45% of the game…

Why is Mark Fox the guy? Because, sadly, he may be the best we can do.

We’re an awful, awful team. Fox has been here 2 and 1/2 seasons, and I don’t see improvement from when he got here. Sure, we squeaked into the tourney last season, but Fox’s squad was led by guys not recruited by him.

Our current roster is composed of guys largely brought in by Fox, and they’re awful. Part of being a good coach is recruiting good players, and we look like a bad mid-major school right now. We need someone who can come in here a put a solid recruiting class together, not one player and a bunch of leftovers, like trash from Tennessee State or unheard of recruits.

The State of Georgia has hundreds of talented players, yet they leave the state. It’s not like GT is killing it right now. We have no excuse. Heck, GT being bad should have opened the door for us to be better, but were not even decent. It blows my mind.

I’m beyond frustrated with this basketball program.

We won't get better than Coach Fox.

We need an entire systematic change. The problem is, most UGA boosters don’t care. We could outright pay people to play for us and they wouldn’t come.

Mr. Sanchez is right – we need a recruiting guy for Atlanta and Georgia, and we need to drop the hammer on the old folks that consider round ball a leisure fan activity.

I wouldn't say we won't

at least not if we’re talking about in the future. But if we pulled the plug on him this quick, I think that would raise a huge red flag to anyone we’d go after.

I never have said remove Fox. I am saying the problems are well beyond him and hiring anyone on earth won't fix it.

I think Fox has a lot of untapped potential, and he needs some untapped UGA.

Sorry, I should have been more clear...

no, you have never said that. And we agree there. I also agree that there are problems beyond him, although some (namely recruiting issues) he may not be helping correct. I think he has a lot of untapped ability so far, and that he can be the right one to tap that which has never been tapped here. I’m less confident now than I ever have been, because of our offensive regression, the recruiting issues, and the struggles we had late in games last year.

McGarity has said he let's his coaches decide assistants.

Right on. But that is not to say he can’t bring CMF in the office to discuss some improvements that CMF makes. See, I see this as a chicken and egg problem, which came first? The one thing we can immediately control is start some stricter ticket enforcement. Based on my FB posts, they are at the point of giving the tickets away upstairs anyhow. McGarity can do a lot to start cracking on boosters and money and make it more of an important issue.

Some people here won’t like this, it’s not personal, and it’s not us, but my feelings, from a student to now, is people don’t care. I think watching a KU home game should be a recruitment to going to a UGA game. No showing, showing up late, leaving early, they don’t care. This “we are a football school” doesnt hold water, because a) it happens at football games as well, and b) we are much more of a swimming/diving, tennis and gym school in terms of success. So, don’t tell me it’s because of football we have bad basketball, I am telling you because of football we should have at least good basketball.

KCP is a great find. However, you need like two of those guys a year. Then after a few years, you have 2 a class. Now we make the NCAA more often, and fan interest grows.

I am now back to bed.

I have no problem with Fox deciding his own assistants

and have been adaament in my opinion there. If you start dictating who a head coach hires as assistants, then you need a new head coach too.

But it’s not so much telling him who to hire (Jonas Hayes please), as much as simply saying, “I’m providing you the funding to add another member to your staff. Let’s hope this helps your program improve, and us finally start getting our fair share of Atlanta recruits (wink, wink)”.

Roger. Sorry for another horrible worded and edited comment.

I think this is spot on – McGarity doesnt have to tell him who to get, but he can have an office call that he expects him to get someone, and will back it with the monies.

Serious question, Mr. Sanchez:

You’ve mentioned a couple of guys in the past, though I’m not sure whether they were examples of the types of guys you wanted, or actually the guys you wanted. Could you give us three or four names, and brief explanations of who they are and why you want them, for potential assistants, in the form of a comment, a fanpost, or a front-page posting? I’d genuinely be interested in knowing what it is we need. I know something isn’t right, but I don’t have a clear idea of how to fix it. Thanks.

They are more "types" because the actual guy would be Fox's choice

since he’s the one who has to work with them, and they need to complement each other and in the staff overall.

Some of the names-
Jonas Hayes-former player here, from Atlanta, was coach at Douglas HS, and is now at Belmont-Abbey under another former UGA assistant coach (Steve Miss). Plus, he’s a great person in addition to a quality basketball man.
Eddie Martin-a HS coach at I believe GAC, formerly at Norcross. Has been in the Atlanta area for a while, and seems to continually get transfers from elite AAU programs.
Sharm White-Head coach at Miller Grove, which is putting out numerous prospects.
Insert other HS coach of top Atlanta schools like David Boyd (Milton), Jessie McMillan (Norcross), Doug Lipscomb (Wheeler), etc .
Karl McCray-Brother of recently hired UCLA coach Korey McCray and long time Atlanta Celtics (elite AAU program) coach. There are multiple other coaches with the Celtics program that could fit the bill.
Norm Parker-Runs Atlanta’s other elite AAU program, Georgia Stars. Like just said with McCray, there are multiple in this program who could fit the bill.
Insert other Atlanta AAU program man.

Basically, get “one of them”, as in someone who’s been apart of that circle for years. There’s a dozen or more names that could help give us instantly increased credibility with the key source of recruits in our backyard. Whoever Fox felt fit best with him and his staff should help improve our long standing poor success in that regard.

Thanks.

I have a follow-up question, though. (Again, this is a serious attempt to obtain information, not a challenge.) If one of the goals is to build an inroad into the Atlanta AAU basketball scene, how effective is hiring one of their current coaches as a long-term strategy? Within four years of the hiring of such a coach, wouldn’t his ties to AAU players be severed by the complete turnover of such programs’ rosters? What then?

The strategy is more

to give us someone known, and who’s trusted by that community, and who’s one of them, rather than getting specific players (well maybe White as an attempt to get Tony Parker). That’s why I led with Jonas Hayes. Hayes has the more general connections to countless in the area, not just a specific kid here or there. Plus he’s young, energetic, intelligent, and as said above, a great person as well as a great teacher and basketball mind (can you tell who I’d really want to be added to the staff?).

But to answer your third question, you could always hire another out of this mold to reconnect, when other assistants move onward and upward.

And on the second question, the ties to the players may go, but again, that’s not what it’s about. The move is about ties to the coaches and those who influence the decisions by kids in the area, and that’s the long term strategy. The specific kid strategy has worked before, most notably with Kansas hiring Danny Manning’s father, but while those guys I mentioned may bring a player or two specifically, the true value would be to have someone the others mentioned know, trust to take good care of their kids, and with whom they can have open lines of communication. That’s been a problem historically here; that we have coaches who are aloof and non-communicative (which was said to be an issue with Felton), that are unknown (Fox), and that people in charge of things won’t hesitate to throw kids under the bus to make themselves look good (Mike Adams).

Thanks.

On February 1, I may declare a general amnesty and unban everyone who’s been banned, so Muckbeast can take you to task for speaking ill of Il Duce and Rangers100 can turn every signing day thread into a referendum on oversigning!

(Kidding. No, really, I wouldn’t do that.)

I still think we should have had a Bama "oversigning national champs"

post, and give Rangers a limited unban so he could troll the Tide trolls.

I wish SB Nation . . .

. . . could make it so we could unban banned commenters on a post-specific basis, so we could unleash Rangers100 and the banned Bammers on one another in a dedicated thread without involving the rest of us by having it spill over into other threads.

You mean, like, put them on their own island? Give um guns and make it a movie!
We only scored 18 points in the second half?

#FireMikeBobo

And we scored only 19.

What were our teams doing those last 20 minutes? Jeez. At one point I thought, it would be nice to hold Georgia to under 50. Then I thought, wait a minute, are we going to score 50?

Here’s your take away: For 34 minutes (the first 14 and the last 20), Georgia played the No. 1 team in the country to a one-possession game. You played us even for 85 percent of that game.

Those last 6 minutes of the first half. That made all the difference.

This

was by far Georgia’s best game of the season. If they were actually capable of playing our A-game consistently then we’d probably have another 20-win season coming up. What boggles my mind is that in every game there are just huge stretches where the entire team believes desperation 3s and dumb turnovers are the only option.

Isn't it the coaches job to dictate...

The shot-selection?

Absolutely

…but the desperation 3s and turnovers indicate a lack of execution to me. Those aren’t plays that a coach asks his players to run (I hope).

BTW: Lay of Robinson. “Trash” is much too strong a word to use when talking about student-athletes.

I was referring to his basketball "skills"

Not him personally. I apologize for the lack of clarity, as I was not clear as to why I was calling him “trash.”

In the event you take issue with my opinion of him as a basketball player, and nothing else, I don’t see why him being a student-athlete should matter. I attended UGA, too, and I freely admit my basketball skills, as well as my foreign language skills, calculus skills, gymnastics skills, and many other skills, are trash and were trash during my entire time at the university. Why is Robinson exempt from harsh comments? Because he plays on the school’s team? Because I didn’t flesh out the my definition of “trash”?

Admittedly, I wouldn’t boo Robinson or say he’s “trash” to his face, for that’s rude and wrong, but to make a comment about him on a blog in a thread after a game where he went 3-14 from the field, scoring a measly 6 points, while chipping in 4 turnovers to only 3 assists, in a season where he’s shooting poorly and averages nearly 3 turnovers per game, is not unfounded or unwarranted. I have never understood why some are afraid to make harsh comments about grown men (Robinson’s turning 22 in a couple of weeks) simply because they wear a UGA jersey.

As a basketball player, he’s trash. I apologize to those who disagree.

I think the word "trash" sounds more like a comment on his moral character.

If you say “he’s a crappy ball player” – well, there you go.

You're right, I should have chosen a better way to make my point.

I’m merely frustrated. I have never been a fan of Robnison’s, and I don’t know why he gets so much PT. But it’s CMF’s fault for playing him, not Robinson’s. Similar to Joe Cox, the kid can only play to his best ability, which is severely lacking. If he’s not playing well, the coach needs to bench him. I scares me to think we don’t have better options.

After last season, I felt we were headed in the right direction, but once Price, Thompkins, and Leslie left (all non-Fox guys, I believe) we were left with a bad team—a CMF team. So what has Fox done? Nothing at all, in my opinion, except land KCP.

I mean this in all seriousness: why is Fox the guy? Why keep him? Can it get worse?

Can it get worse?

Yes, substantially so. As evidence of this, I would point to Jim Harrick, Ron Jirsa, and Dennis Felton.

That’s not to say your other points aren’t valid, but, given the mess he inherited, Mark Fox is nowhere close to being on the hot seat, nor should he be. A couple of years from now, maybe so, but, right now, he’s fighting a valiant fight against our whole history, which, whether we like it or not, gives us the weakest men’s basketball tradition in the Southeastern Conference. That’s harsh, but it’s hard to argue that it’s not a fact.

Regarding the larger question, when Damon Evans whiffed on his attempts to hire big-name coaches, I advocated hiring “Georgia’s Lon Kruger”; e.g., the guy who would make Bulldog basketball relevant enough to allow us to land a top-tier coach to replace him, just as Florida did by hiring Lon Kruger to bridge the gap between utter irrelevance and Billy Donovan. I hate to say this, because I like Mark Fox, but Mark Fox may be that guy.

Disagree on Harrick

the off the court issues aside, we’ll never have a better floor coach. And that’s not a slight to anyone else, more a testament to just how great he was as a teacher of the game. You can find someone as good, but it’s near impossible to get “better”. And the off the court stuff was extremely exaggerated.

Agreed completely with you next two paragraphs.

Isn't saying "off the court issues aside" about Jim Harrick . . .

. . . like saying “locker room issues aside” about Jerry Sandusky? No, the wrongdoing isn’t comparable, but the totality of the extent to which those issues overwhelmed all else is.

I don’t know what’s so exaggerated about a guy leaving three straight programs under a cloud. That sounds to me like a pattern. Player payments, bogus coursework, whole recruiting classes failing to qualify, NCAA sanctions stripping the program of wins; it’s hard to blow anything that disproportionate out of proportion. The dude was pure poison.

He was a great teacher of the game? Well, Al Capone loved opera, too. Even demons have redeeming characteristics, but it doesn’t mean they’re not demons.

That's quite the exaggeration

and those issues “overwhelmed” all else because of a pissing contest between the AD and President. Not to get too far in to detail, but the amount of wrongdoing was nowhere near what they made it out to be. I’m not saying things were good, or that he should have been kept (with the Vitale interview a nail in the coffin, and something his bosses told him to not do, so also insubordination). But that situation was not what it was made to appear.

And who in the hell decided it was OK for a coach to teach his own players in a class? Can you imagine Garner, or McClendon, teaching the coaching football class, including their own players? That wouldn’t have been allowed, and rightfully so. I still think that class was someone within the AA or school administration looking for a rope to hang.

Justification for a chronic rulebreaker.

Cheaters gonna cheat. Jim Harrick cheated (and was caught) at every stop he made prior to Georgia. Then he cheated at Georgia, and he was caught.

Being a great floor coach is great and all, but in college, it’s only part of the equation, and can easily by overshadowed by many other factors. You know what? Bobby Knight is a better coach than Jim Harrick, and he is equally vilified (though probably by different people, and for different reasons). And I wouldn’t want Bobby Knight at Georgia, either, though given the choice between Knight and Harrick, I would choose Knight.

You cannot intentionally disobey the NCAA. Period. If you do, you’re fired. And if you’ve done it at any other universities, you shouldn’t be the head coach at Georgia.

On the day Harrick was hired, I told my father, “He’ll have modest success, then get caught cheating, then get fired and we’ll get slapped NCAA sanctions, probably all within 5 years.” I called it exactly right.

Whether NCAA rules were broken, or the firing justified is another issue

but the allegations Kyle specifically mentions paints an inaccurate picture of what actually occured. Also, the comparison to child rape is absurd and way over the top.

Do tell.

I didn’t compare the two, at least in terms of severity; in fact, I specifically stated otherwise. My point was that you can’t blithely cast aside the fact that the guy was a serial cheater. That is his defining characteristic, not an ancillary detail.

Tell me how I’m painting “an inaccurate picture of what actually occurred.” Am I wrong that whole recruiting classes failed to qualify? Am I wrong that improper benefits were provided in the form of financial assistance? Am I wrong that players were given course credit for bogus classes? Am I wrong that the NCAA hit the Georgia program with probation and stripped wins from the record book?

Jim Harrick was a cheater, and he always was a cheater, and vineyarddawg isn’t the only one of us who predicted precisely what would happen the day Michael Adams rammed his hiring down Vince Dooley’s throat. I don’t care how good a floor coach he was, he was rotten to the core at every other thing in the world, and he set our program back at least ten years. The son of a bitch’s name shouldn’t even be mentioned in Athens.

Tell me what I’m getting wrong, because Jeremy Schaap, the NCAA, UCLA, and I have a pretty clear picture of exactly what kind of man he was . . . namely, a bad one.

It's a defining characteristic to some, not others

Am I wrong that whole recruiting classes failed to qualify?None that I can recall, so yes, you are. Some of his recruits were also qualified, but denied by Presidential committees (after he specifically asked if the kid would be allowed in at least one instance).

Am I wrong that improper benefits were provided in the form of financial assistance? Depends on who you believe in that story.

Am I wrong that players were given course credit for bogus classes? Yes. It was a legit class (why it was allowed, and so poorly supervised by those who run the academic side of things, is a huge question). But yes, you are wrong. It was not a “bogus” class. It was a legit class. An easy A and gimme class, of which there are several that many students, as well as student-athletes, had.

Am I wrong that the NCAA hit the Georgia program with probation and stripped wins from the record book? Thanks to the actions of administrators in a pissing contest with each other, yes. If we handled that like several other schools (see Auburn/Cam, among others), that would be a question. The wins were “stripped” because of supposed ineligible players that were in the damned class, who would have actually been eligible even without those credits.

“he was rotten to the core at every other thing in the world”? Have you met him? If you had, you wouldn’t say anything of the sort.

“set our program back at least ten years” is absolutely not true. If we don’t hire a complete incompetent to follow him, we’d have been just fine.

But you have taken the Michael Adams story hook, line, and sinker. And with such clear demonizing of the man (and don’t paint me as an apologist, because that would ignore several things I actually said), I don’t really care to continue this conversation since your (Michael Adams spun) opinion is hardened.

Don't ignore what I said . . .

. . . then accuse me of ignoring what you said. Don’t tell me what I’d think of this repeat offender if I met him; meeting him has nothing to do with whether he’s a cheater. Don’t accuse me of buying a Michael Adams line when you know that isn’t something I’d do.

I don’t have a link to it handy, but, unless my memory fails me completely, I’m quite certain one of his recruiting classes failed to quality in its entirety.

It is, frankly, silly to suggest that an NCAA probation that wiped out two seasons and prevented a tournament berth in a third didn’t set the program back by several years.

I’m sorry if you’re offended that your vague and ill-explained position (“Depends on who you believe in that story”?) conflicts with what you take to be my vague and ill-explained position; from what I gather, you met the guy and he seemed swell, so you defend him, but the guy was a poison pill to our program. If you want to buy that a coach who left UCLA and Rhode Island under a cloud got wrongly accused when he got to Athens, well, there’s nothing I can do to stop you, I suppose.

All I know is, vineyarddawg and I both independently told people the day he was hired that he’d land our program on probation, and damned if we weren’t both right. Maybe a couple of basketball noobs just happened to make a lucky guess, huh?

But you did...

that’s the Adams/ESPN narrative you just gave me. And accusing someone of “rotten to the core at every other thing in the world” is quit a huge accusation.

The depends on who you believe in that story is a reference to the Dale Brown involvement with Tony Cole. The only one who brings up payment, who is a convicted felon and career criminal.

Yes, I knew him, but I also knew many of the players on those teams. It allows for an insight in to the backstory that wasn’t a part of the Adams/ESPN narrative that so many love to spit.

The man had his faults; NCAA issues, truth telling issues, his son, amongst others. But you go too far in the “rotten to the core” and invoking a child rapist in comparison. And by all means, name the class that didn’t qualify at all. Because there wasn’t one, I’ve checked.

And the setting the program back, again, was entirely dependent on the subsequent hire. We were left with an incompetent, and another who doesn’t follow NCAA rules (Tim Floyd). Thanks to our history and our administration’s actions in that debacle, our pickings were slim. But the right hire doesn’t miss a beat with a strong returning core, and the bounty of talent in our backyard. Call it “silly” if you will, but it’s a fact.

All right, fair enough.

Thanks, Mr. Sanchez. I do think it’s fair to accept the validity of Jeremy Schaap’s sports reporting when it’s backed up by a subsequent NCAA investigation of a guy who’d had similar issues on previous occasions. At that point, I wouldn’t call it a narrative, for the same reason that, post-conviction, you don’t have to say a criminal defendant “allegedly” did what he was accused of doing.

The recruiting class to which I was referring was the 2002 class. Evidently, I was mistaken, as Wayne Arnold lettered in 2003, which means one of those four signees actually made it to campus. My mistake.

With apologies for the factual inaccuracy, my point remains the same: Jim Harrick recruited well on signing day, but that doesn’t make a difference if those signees never make it to campus; Jim Harrick coached well on game day, but that doesn’t make a difference if those wins are expunged from the record book due to NCAA sanctions. Recruiting and coaching are like investing in the stock market: It’s all about what you have in your pocket when you walk away.

I overstated the case, which I regret, and, on a more personal note, Mr. Sanchez, I apologize for the turn, and the tone, our exchange took. Stripped of exaggeration and exasperation, my point was simply that, as bad as things now are under Mark Fox, they were worse at the end of the Jirsa, Harrick, and Felton regimes, albeit for different reasons.

The "Michael Adams story?"

What exactly is that? Because my “Michael Adams story” is that Michael Adams forced Vince Dooley to hire a known cheater as head basketball coach, and he subsequently cheated at UGA, too, leading directly to NCAA probation.

In fact, Adams should be out on his ass, too, not just Jim Harrick.

And furthermore

to put him in the same breath as Jirsa and Felton is like putting humans, whales, and platypi in the same batch because they’re all mammals.

Well...

… I wouldn’t want a whale or a platypus as UGA’s basketball coach any more than I would want the human named Jim Harrick. So… they kind of do fit into the same breath in that sense.

The other thing they have in common . . .

. . . is that they all were Georgia basketball coaches who, on balance (albeit for different reasons) all were worse than Mark Fox.

If you want to say Jim Harrick was a better game day coach than Mark Fox, fine, but we both know last year’s NCAA Tournament bid isn’t going to be blotted out by a bunch of asterisks in the media guide two years from now. Anything good Jim Harrick did was literally erased from the record book by his misdeeds. Whether a coach’s successes still count after he’s gone is a factor in judging that coach’s caliber.

His son's misdeeds, if were being accurate

And let’s see all 3 were Georgia coaches, all there had very different flaws:
Harrick, decent but not strong recruiter, great at the PR part, problems following NCAA rules. Excellent teacher of the game, and floor coach.

Jirsa, strong recruiter, good at the PR aspects, strong assistant coach but horrible in the head role.

Felton, incompetent at every aspect of the job, from PR to recruiting to floor coach to following NCAA rules (of which he actually broke several in his time here, from allowed practice time to recruiting contacts).

Yes, they all had very different flaws, . . .

. . . which is why I wrote “they all were Georgia basketball coaches who, on balance (albeit for different reasons) all were worse than Mark Fox” (emphasis added). The reason I had to write that was that you were playing dumb by pretending you didn’t know how in the world I came up with a list that included Ron Jirsa, Jim Harrick, and Dennis Felton, as though they had no connecting threads whatsoever.

I don’t know if you’re just in a particularly contentious mood this evening, or if you decided to take a night off from using what I know to be your otherwise fine reading comprehension skills, but you seem to be going out of your way to pick a fight with me, for no other or better reason than that I had the audacity to suggest that Mark Fox isn’t the worst coach ever.

That being the case, I’m going to yield the floor. I have a posting to finish, anyway, and, hopefully, we’ll all be in a little bit less foul mood tomorrow.

Yes, I'm a bit sensitve on this

the invoking of Sandusky set me off, especially when if you recall, that summer ESPN continually posted Harrick up for their “summer of evil coaches” narrative, over Baylor’s Dave Bliss who fabricated drug dealing and other tales to cover payments to a player murdered by a teammate.

But the “bogus class” is either a difference of semantics, or an improper phrasing. The “rotten to the core” is just above and beyond. Again, that ESPN/Michael Adams narrative of the end was just wrong, and in reality, it negatively impacted the countless quality people left behind in the wake of those problems. So I am quite sensitive to the continuation of that false narrative.

Fair enough.

I apologize for the comparison. I tried to qualify it sufficiently to illustrate the limited extent to which I was likening the two men (e.g., I didn’t consider their misdeeds comparable; I just meant their misdeeds were similarly overwhelming codas to their careers), but I apologize for using such an inflammatory example.

I disagree that the portrayal of the Harrick scandal was false or is a narrative, but, as my larger point was simply that Georgia basketball is in a better place now than it was at the end of the Harrick regime, I am content to have that closed chapter remain closed, to agree to disagree, and to let the subject drop.

Again, sorry it got as heated as it did.

Accepted, and agreed.
Thanks for your input.

Great assessment.

If you don't play Robinson, then who?

He’s amongst our top scorers for a reason, and there’s no one close to him in terms of ability to drive the lane.

I don't know how you'd term them either

Fox didn’t sign Price, Leslie or Thompkins, but he’s the reason they stuck around. Maybe Price would have played the last two years under Felton, but Leslie and Thompkins would have been gone after their freshman seasons if Felton didn’t leave first.

He's got talent

particular his ball handling and quickness. His D isn’t great, but it’s not bad. His shooting, even close to the rim, is horrific.

Fair enough...

Maybe he should be told not to shoot as much, and if he’s great at driving the lane, why doesn’t he get to the line more?

Last night Robinson was 0-0 from the line. (Granted, as mentioned above, the entire team only had three FTs.) On the season he averages around 4 FTs a game, but he’s shooting at nearly 80% from the line. If he would stop taking bad outside shots (29%) and drive to the hoop, he’d score more. In fact, last season, he averaged more three-point attempts per game than free-throw attempts. (He’s marginally better this season.) That’s not good.

Robinson’s highly erratic from beyond the arc. He went nearly a month without making a three; he then went 3-6 against Ole Miss. I’d rather him stop taking the darn shots, long jumpers included.

As coach, CMF should recognize the skills of his players and should try to get his players to do what works best for them, not what they think is best for them.

Because he's great at getting there

what to do in the lane once he’s there, finishing, drawing contact, etc, is where the problems begin.

One more made 3

would have made it 6 of 18. That’s effectively 50% from the field, which is fine. In line with what Kentavious and Ware have been shooting on the year. And much better than the team’s 37.8% from 2-point range. Kentucky took 18 threes as well, which represented a higher percentage of their total shot attempts.

The Bulldogs had only 6 turnovers, which is remarkably low, especially against UK. Maybe they’re playing too cautiously?

Djurisic needed to assert himself more throughout the game. Started strongly, hitting outside shots, and had a nice couple of plays underneath. He looked capable, but he seemed to disappear at some point. I liked him, and Ware. What a pain in the butt he is, and as a UK fan I mean that in a most complimentary way. 8 of his 12 shots were from beyond the arc, though. That’s a bit much when you’re not making a good percentage.

You know where you make a good percentage? Your best percentage, in fact? From the line. It’s the most efficient place on the floor from which to score (you’re never going to average 68.7% from 2- or 3-point range). But the Bulldogs managed only 3 FT attempts last night. Three. I know the refs swallowed their whistles – the game flew by in about 1 hr. 50 min. – but my god, how can a team, at home, shoot only 3 FTs in 40 mintues? Coach, you gotta find a way to get your guys to the line. UK has attempted 517 FTs this year. That ranks 8th in the country. UGA has attempted only 323. That ranks 303rd. And that’s a problem.

I don't follow you enough to know about Fox

But Caldwell=Pope and Djurdfg%$^23vis will bring evil dreams to the SEC for a long time as long as they remain in school. Good game, I hope you all have a great run this year.

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