just dis-heartened. it saddens me to see such good football talent, under-coached then under-perform. The University owes more to the kids they bring into play and the fans that support the program than what is currently being done. Bobo needs not to be to OC, make room for him as an assistant or let him excel in another venue. Grantham needs to be locked up in a heartbeat. We have seen how magical our teams can be on occasion and I am just disappointed that our coaching staff cannot put a team on the field that can play a full football game
the fact that Grantham may says “screw it” and take his game elsewhere. You could hardly blame him. (I think the only reason he would stay is the fact that he has such a strong group coming back)
whether this loss will so piss him off that he will start entertaining offers. He has got to see the head coaching blunders as well. Taking a knee on 2nd down to kick a 42 yard field goal is just craziness. That coupled with our offensive strategy when he had a chance to win the game is troubling.
I dont care how many pts you score. Or how many yards.
If it comes off of big plays, without the ability to grind yards and move chains, it’s going to cost you against a quality team. It’s really that simple. We can’t “go conservative” if we can’t move chains. Otherwise, you get what happened in Atlanta and today against MSU.
Has there ever been a bigger vote of No Confidence in an Offense
Than what we saw in the first overtime? For that reason alone changes should be made.
How embarrassing to start prepping for the kick on SECOND freaking DOWN.
If they don’t think they can score score a touchdown from the 25 what business do they have even accepting a bowl invitation?
So saddened by what I saw. Cowards.
I can't think of anything I have ever seen Georgia do in a game that upset me more.
It’s a team game and BW’s teammates didn’t help put him in a position to succeed.Of course. it was foreshadowed by taking a knee at the end of the game.
It’s not Walsh’s fault we lost, for he’s been terrible all season. He is what we thought he was.
Murray, on the other hand, is the reason we lost. He can’t beat good teams. When was the last big game he had without multiple turnovers? What a joke? He’s too mistake-prone to ever win consistently—the Romo of the SEC.
I’d like any other QB to get a shot next season, but, alas, he’ll be QB by default, like Walsh at kicker.
let me just say that I’m pissed, and I came of age during the 90s while watching some very frustrating and pathetic UGA teams. Please keep this in mind before breaking out the ban-hammer.
I know Chop is a troll most times, but he's totally right in this case. This is going to be "Classic" Georgia as long
as CMB is our offensive coordinator. His flaws are covered sometimes by great players (Stafford, Moreno, Green, Mitchell, etc.) but he’s holding us back from ever moving forward. So shouldn’t we continue to have the discussion about eliminating his involvement at the program?
It seems to me that Murray chokes in the big games and we have no line. The problems today seem the same as the ones all season.
And Big John going out before MSU’s last drive really hurt.
this loss was a blessing in disguise. Our flaws have been laid out for everyone to see. If RIcht is a good coach he will make positive changes…..If not, well…….he will be the coach many wanted out at the end of last season.
We will all know early next year whether anything has changed…….fortunately, I am not holding my breath.
…and it’s really hard to do, our best season in recent memory came off of an inexplicable loss to BC that was absolutely rife with poor play-calling and clock management.
I have the same feeling I had in the SEC Championship! No Adjustments. . .WHY??? 3 straight run plays to start the second half, feels like we have learned nothing from our past. FIRED MIKE DODO!!!
So what? We want to be a top 10 team, then we have to beat those teams. And, we played well for parts of those games.
So it’s the beating your head against the wall with stupid crap like running into 9 men fronts and never playing away from a defense’s strengths that kill me.
I'm confident that the defense could shut down top offenses.
And just as confident that the offense will disappear against decent (or better) defenses.
The O just isn’t held to the same standard. We want to be the best team, right? We have a top 3 defense. The offense needs to step up. That staff has had 6 years. The D has had 2 (with 2 different ILB coaches) and is top 3.
It was the perfect picture of all things that are maddening about supporting this team. I hardly have the motivation to write this post because that is how this team leaves you, completely spent and lacking the will to wipe the spittle from drooling down your chin as you drift off into a vegetable state.
Cannot just lose. No, we have to our guts ripped out and pulled some 15 yards out in front of us as Blue Duck’s wolf pups feast on our entrails. I am fully and completely on board with getting someone of the right caliber in here to run the O. That someone is NOT Bobo. He is completely and consistently outclassed. If you are Orson Charles, would you stay after today?
hauled in that pick, Bobo needed to call the game as if the game itself were on the line. He failed miserably, basically sticking to the same flawed “RSIV” up the middle crap that gave the other team a shot in which they capitalized.
But once again, this game should have never gotten to this point. Again, we gave them a gift pick-6 that followed another interception that changed the entire complexion of the game.
Hats off to Michigan State, but they didn’t beat us as much as we beat ourselves. Again.
That 2 minute drill was wonderfully orchestrated by MSU
However, it never should have come down to that. Our defense was gassed, and they aren’t in any shape to go back onto the field at that point in the game. We needed a first-down, and Bobo is a damn fool if he doesn’t realize that. Come to think of it, he probably didn’t realize it, and he was just counting on Grantham to bail him out like he has all season. I apologize for the language, but I am so tired of watching all this talent on offense like a coordinated as a group of headless chickens.
Martinez used to say the same thing about his defensive players.
Execution is a red herring. As they say, “You’re either coaching it or allowing it to happen.”
Execution is the responsibility of the coaches. Amazing how the defensive staff fixed the execution problem. Offensive staff… Still making stupid mistakes. Players making dumb mistakes. Horrible play calls. Offense shuts down when the script runs out.
and don’t take our vents on here to paint a picture that MSU did not deserve to win. Both teams played a damn good game and the winners deserve to claim the victory. hard fought contest and good glimpses of what each team can be like next year.
but it’s inspiring to see a team keep fighting. We came out swinging in the first half, and y’all never gave up. Great win for y’all. Good luck next year.
No one should be shocked by anything that happened today: the turnovers by Murray, the misses by Walsh, and the horrid game plan by Bobo. We are who we thought we were.
but the call on 3rd and 8 with 2:15 left bothers me as much as anything. Gutless. Go for the win. There has to be some pass play in the books that is relatively safe for that distance. And tho whole making them burn their last TO argument has no weight. 2 mins with 0 TO is equivalent to 2 mins with 1 TO because of the first down rules. Add that to the decisions in OT, and Bobo must go (and this is coming from someone who has never called for a coaches head until this moment).
I just don’t understand how coaches don’t realize that. If >2 is left, go for the win because 2 minutes is really 3-4 minutes of offense by the 1st down clock rules. How does Bobo stay on staff? I’ve never heard a good justification for it other than CMR likes him.
A grand culmination of the same old crap from Bobo
Well, I am SO sad to say that I am not shocked at all about how angry I feel about this loss. Now my only real concern…. losing a number of potential great recruits because they see how they will be coached
I had planned to have fine dinner tonight to savor the victory… Instead, I will drowned in Bud Lite and R&R…..I did manage to start a re-port on facebook to get Bobo removed…Thats the best I can off right now….
Mark Richt is the reason. From running on first down from the two with 20 +/- seconds to go and no time outs against Auburn in his first year to today’s refusal to even trying for a 1st down with three attempts available from the 25 yard line in OT (leaving all to a a kicker who had missed 12 times), Richt has proven his inability to think and get the best out of his players for years. If his teams can’t overwhelm opponents with sheer talent; he can’t win.
Again with the "don't ever say something bad about (Kyle or Mark Richt)" meme.
What no one is ever allowed to say is a personal attack against another commenter or moderator. Criticism of Richt is just as welcome as criticism of Bobo. You just have to be able to support your argument when others come around to take the other side.
We do not allow descents into yelling and name-calling. We actively encourage debate and discussion, however. If you want to criticize Mark Richt, then go right ahead.
That we gave up on the OT possession. But what makes it worse is that we moved the ball to the right for a kicker who’s been pushing kicks to the right ALL. YEAR. LONG.
If that kick’s from the left hash, it’s good. If that kick’s from three yards closer in, it’s good.
. . . but aren’t we giving the defense a bit of a pass? We were winning 27 to 20 when we let the Spartans drive it 85 yards with nary a hiccup for the tie. How can a defense that held them to 72 yards of total offense and eight three-and-out drives in the first half let that happen?
. . . but all that had already happened by that point. All we had to do was stop them. Egad, they started on their 15! Not excusing the offensive shortcomings, but I just don’t see why we couldn’t inhibit them just a little on that last drive in regulation.
Haven’t had a secs to read comments so pardon if preaching to the choir. FUCK! THIS! SHIT!!!! Good job Michigan State, if we’d have won I’d be the first to congratulate u on a great game. Now I’m too pissed to see passed our glaring failures. Dammit Georgia! When will u perform to your potential?
The teams to which we lost were ranked second, ninth, twelfth, and thirteenth in scoring defense and second, fourth, fifth, and eighteenth in total defense. On average, we rang up 82.365 more yards and 7.62 more points than those teams allowed. In other words, we’re an above average offense. Get ready to hear this excuse.
We have top 20 talent but only produced a top 40 offense. It’s an obvious problem with an obvious solution.
to wonder why Murray is deified during and after two seasons where he repeatedly turns the ball over in KEY situations and loses all the big games? Yes, he plays VERY well during a lot of games but why is he the chosen one? Just the stats??
Are Mason and Lemay that bad that they arent even given any real time in games? Am I crazy to think our defense got demoralized after all of Murray’s turnovers?
However, there is a reason you only see Mason in garbage time. Do you remember how good Joe Cox looked in similar situations? The result of starting Hutson would probably be about the same.
Since I have not seen Mason do anything terrible in televised games and have not seen practices, can anyone tell me why he isnt given a chance? Does he have a track record of INTs or bad game decisions? What has Mason done to run him off to another team?
Quick reads are not AM’s strength. Because of the line he is forced to quick reads. How many times did he not see wide open receivers today?
He looks like a world class QB when we play patsies who we can block.
Maybe the play calling should accommodate the pour line play, but in the end we need better line play.
Hey I wish Bobo was gone too but they did not score 33 pts on our offence (only 6) our defence crumbled time after time in the second half and they drove approx 70 yards to the goal line in like 40 seconds. Without doubt a bad called game but we had this and the defense went limp.
after we’d wasted a down on a 2 yard CT run. If that was going to be the strategy, why not give our incompetent kicker multiple downs in which to kick?
but should not this 3rd ranked defense in the land have some of the blame here, I mean look at the wide open guys, again 70 yard in approx 40 seconds.. yes the off sucked so bad but in two games this defense has started great and went wet noddle in the second half of the two Biggest games of the year. Both units should share this loss.
Let your offense put your defense in bad situations enough times and the #1 defense in the land will eventually get tired and/or demoralized to the point that horrible things happen.
I stand by CTG and the D without hesitation or question
Our D was on the field for a long, long time in the second half. Could our D have made more plays? Yeah, sure, but blaming them for the loss is a little unfair.
We have huge guys that can’t move. The two MSU guys ate our lunch all day long with quickness. Boise did the same thing. Our huge guys may actually be to big – see TS and the three knee’s and all the other leg issues we have evey year.
I think what is frequently forgotten is without Van Gorder, Richt never survives the first five years and without Grantham he doesn’t survive the last two. Richt is an okay head coach with a great D coordinator because he is sooooo frigging conservative. Playing not to lose is the surest way to lose.
If Grantham leaves Richt has no one to blame but himself………..
just that I’ve seen a lot of good and bad the last 35 years. I feel like the last five or six have been purgatory or worst. Very few wins against top 15 teams.
I got nothing against Richt, I just don’t think he has the stones to be a champion.
This feels about like the South Carolina game in the sense that we just gave it away. What’s worse is the fact that we have to wait 8 months for any form of redemption.
Please lets dont start the negative vib and put our Head Coach on the hot seat again just because of this loss 9LIKE LAST YEAR). It will really hurt recruiting and the great vib for next year. As a fan base leSt be as supportive as possible and spead the word to do so…..
Okay, that’s it… I have been a loyal Georgia fan for over 35 years. I went through the Dooley years and all the subsequent coaches. I have watched from great distances being in the USAF for 23 years. I have watched the ups and downs (seems mostly downs, especially when talking about Florida (at least we beat them this year, but only because they were down)), but I have had enough! Mike Bobo has to go! Our defense was great, but got worn out because they couldn’t get off the field. Living in Lousiana now, I will be a LA Tech fan due to family attending there. At least there my expectations will be in check. I’ll be watching again as soon as Bobo leaves. Good luck to you Georgia.
Sorry if that hurt but just not into “Fair/Good Weather Fans” I would never swap to another team because mine is not doing well. Thats all, sorry I was under the impression that all comments were open and not restricted to a “reputation”. Honestly I did not mean it in a totally negative way.
be asured that I am not mod’ing your forum and I promise I did not mean the forum, I am new to this and I did mean come back as a “UGA fan”.He said he was leaving as a Fan and that is what I responded to. But I do get it and I will be more carefull in the future…….. Thanks
Wehutch, been here probably before you were born; however, you yourself have to admit the poor showing of the offense, which is squarely on Mike Bobo. I’m good with CMR, and would hate to lose him, but Bobo is going to take him down with him. I would be happier with Richt calling the plays from the sidelines. We need some decisiveness, nuff said. Take care and have a great year!
Yes sir, but thanks for allowing my opinion. I’m sure once I get over my “mad spell” I will have on all my Ga gear, as always. Heck, my wife just bought me a GA leather jacket last year… What would I do with that if I rellay gave up on ’em. Thanks guys!
and think of how much of this was really Mike Bobo’s fault. Don’t get me wrong, I was no fan of his playcalling today, however, it’s hard to play good offense when your QB turns it over every time his number is called and the offensive line cant open a hole all day, much less pass protect. If you look at this years team, you see improvement to last years, yes even the offense. Not to mention, this was our first year under Will Friend as the Offensive line coach. I think considering the situation he was given(4 guards and a center, no tackles, no depth, injuries, etc.), he coached our line up fairly well. Not to mention he had to implement a much different system (Drive blocking from zone blocking before) and all with recruits from Stacy Searels. He’s shown the ability to recruit elite lineman in his first year and I believe we’ll see improvement. You have to remember, football is won in the trenches regardless of how good your skill players are. Once he has a solid offensive line to work with, then we can see what bobo really is as a coordinator. We’re not too far off, just try to have patience
Who is responsible for the offense? Not just play calling,
but offensive coordination? This concept “if we have a great line and QB and RB then we can see about CMB” is a falacy. CMB is the OC. All OC falls to him.
But he has little control over the circumstances hes put in
OC’s are rarely responsible for the line. Look at alabama, great line+ average coordinator= solid offense. You can ask around and find that Stacy Searels was a terrible O-line Coach, check out Texas’ line from this year. No trenches will never win you a game
its not all on bobo, there are others accountable. There’s no reason for fans to berate him with the attacks they do regardless, but bobo didnt lose the game, the UGA bulldogs did. Bobo’s a heck of a qb coach and an even better recruiter. If all we need to do is give the line a chance to improve, then its worth hanging on to bobo IMO
How is he a "heck of a QB coach?" If ever we needed a QB coach, it's now. AM has been coached down, not up.
Bobo is responsible for all things on offense. The offense has been stagnant and failed to even get a mere first down in critical situations. Richard Samuel to the corner? That’s Bobo’s lack of vision for talent. Bobo is a recruiter? Recruit whom? Richt recruits the QBs. And if Bobo is a “better recruiter” then why are we so then on O Line? Bobo is the OC. He is responsible for the O. The lack of depth on O falls on his shoulders.
Apply the same standards to the OC you do to the DC and see what shakes out.
Joe Cox, who after 5 years under Bobo was a turnover machine, and worse as a SR than as a FR. Or Matt Stafford, who had a huge arm, but saw very little development besides natural maturation as he got older and played more games over his 3 year stint.
I’m with you, I have not seen much to make me confident in Bobo the QB coach.
Bobo gets all the hate but it was Murray who turned it over three times. The last two passes were pitiful. Murray is inconsistent. The o-line can’t block. If you can’t run the ball and the QB is prone to have meltdowns it’s not a good combination.
who is paid to make offensive adjustments at halftime, coach the QB how NOT to make terrible throws and stare down the receiver, AND go with what works – not call plays away from what is already working?
I’d be shocked if Bobo has no say in his staff and who they target.
If Bobo wanted a specific OL coach, he probably would’ve gotten him. But since he’s only been away from UGA for one year ever (as QB coach at Jacksonville St.), I bet that he doesnt know anyone to hire anyway.
No team is going to have an outstanding offense every season. Our fate is tied to Murray. The word is out. If you get pressure on Murray he’ll make a couple of terrible mistakes a game. That’s the story is his career so far.
In the past we’ve lost because or defense sucked. The offense is only as great as the QB. Murray is a big question mark.
If I faced a Bobo-coached UGA offense, I’d blitz every single down. Bobo has no idea what to do and doesn’t coach his QB to take advantage to the blitz either.
This was his last game in year 3 (year 2 playing and starting every game).
That’s 4 years of college coaching. Either Murray is uncoachable/lazy/stupid/incapable or his coach is letting him down/not putting him in position to succeed.
I think he’s a smart, hard-working, talented QB. So, I think Bobo is letting him down.
Murray’s problem is he tries too hard sometimes—forcing passes or not going down at the right time on scrambles. A good QB coach would see these flaws and correct them.
Florida fans are in denial about this as well. Sometimes the QB isn’t as good as advertised. Some people can’t be coached up. What are you supposed to do when the QB fumbles over and over on his side of the field or the QB throws INTs at inopportune times.
You can try to run the ball to take it out of his hands, but have you looked at our backfield?
Mark Richt’s Bulldogs didn’t have to find any new ways to lose in the Outback Bowl — instead, they simply let lots of familiar problems resurface in suffering another second-half collapse and dropping a three-overtime battle with Michigan State.
Again, the Dogs wasted a superlative first-half defensive effort by giving the opponent a couple of cheap touchdowns thanks to turnovers by an erratic Aaron Murray, whose two interceptions put the Spartans back in the ball game.
And again, playcaller Mike Bobo seemed incapable of adjusting to the realities of what was happening on the field and stubbornly stuck with what wasn’t working.
He also talks about Crowell and Walsh, but nails Bobo to the wall
I have been a rabid Dawgs fan for over 40 years, I have seen us fall into disarray and come out of it. But with the talent we have, and the talent Georgia has coming we have no excuses for playing poorly. Today I just knew that we could not hold the lead, I had that gut feeling. We have the talent to compete in the top tier of the SEC but we have to realize as footballs fans that is not going to happen with the current staff we have, mostly Bobo. We need to look at Alabama and LSU and figure out what they are doing and get that winning tradition back. Today I was so mad I just wanted to hit something. We as fans, supporters and boosters need to change something and quick.
That’s all I was venting about. I been a LOYAL “Too many t-shirts” GA fan for many years also, throughout my years in the AF that put me in many not too receptive of GA fans places; especially now being in the middle of LSU territory. But something has to change with our footbal team or we are destined to be another Kentucky or Vandy. We need to OWN the East again, but right now we can’t…
Florida lost to Michigan the season before winning a national championship. Alabama lost to Utah. In the grand scheme of things this game is meaningless.
Yes, it doesnt mean a ton in rankings but the recruiting implications could be large. Also, it strengthens the arguments against Richt which are unfortunate
and my disappointment today is not my way of abandoning the red and black by any stretch. I do believe however this is the time of year for actionable plans to build the program. They begin by analyzing your losses…. and this was a VERY frustrating one.
a win might have justified we were on the right track and good enough. A lost might be just the kick in the crotch we need to keep working hard to get butter.
hey georgia fans this is a msu fan. dont worry im not trolling you or anything thats
for the u of m wolverines. i just want to give my appreciation on such a great game. you guys were by far one of our toughest challenges of the year. that guy i think his name is boykins or something he wears 2 is a beast of a player and hes gonna do great things for u guys. oh and as a detroit lions fan i want to thank you for developing matt stafford into the great qb he is
that this game closing coaching perfromance was so very predictable. The part that killed me was watching Franken Samuel IV run 3 flailing runs into the line with the game on the line for the offense to salt away. I give Samuel credit for showing up in the 4th against a tired and less than top talented UF squad and finishing that game, but he has never been able to gain more than a yard and a half against a D-line of substance. I know all of the old fears adn conservative adages about not turning the ball over late in the game with a lead, but MY GOSH!!!!!…running the ball did not work all day. Why not dink and dunk or at least line in the shotgun? I have not much to say about special teams. With the same special teams we fielded the tow previous seasons, we would have another two wins on the year.
Maybe losing will keep the squad dissatisfied adn secure them all returning. Also, perhaps this will land us ranked 12th or 13th behing SC and give us a chance of sneaking up on some teams on the way to BCS push.
but I may be delusional …..we lost to the four good teams we played this year and Aaron Murray has not shown an ability to beat a really good team in two years.
or does being a Bulldog fan mean your nerves have to be shot out all season long, just when you start to feel optimistic about the team they collapse, the coaching staff makes inexplicable play calls, or the QB throws pick sixes?
This was another pathetically coached game. I knew the loss was imminent when we kneeled the ball with 19 seconds left. Unbelievable! We played to not lose rather than playing to win. So much for the CMR “victory watch” and Richt saving Christmas. CMR is a good man and a good role model and i do believe that is important. But lets face it, he’s too nice to get rid of Bobo and he doesn’t have the instincts to take us to a level of greatness. Unless McGarrity gets some fire in his belly, bulldog nation will just have to get comfortable with mediocre winning seasons that end with the occasional sec championship. No worries though, this mediocrity will continue to pad CMR’s victory total. That will make plenty of bulldogs happy and content.
Tossing aside the great run in the later half of 2007, how many quality opponents have we defeated in the last five years? How often have we been on the wrong side of a beat down?
As much as I hate to say this, the reality of the situation is that we are just a decent mid tier football team with lots of NFL caliber talent.
How CMR and CMB continue to go with AM truly is a mystery. We will never win a championship with him. He’s a choker. I blame Bobo’s – safe mode – as a lack of confidence in himself as a play caller and his lack of confidence in AM to make the right decisions and not self destruct.. This lack of confidence shows and in turn his offense draws off of that feeling. As we’ve seen sooo many times, the feeling of how are we gonna screw it up this time. NO GUTS, NO GLORY. Both CMB and AM lack this and I’m not sure if CMR has not joined the club.
But so far he has not shown any ability to rise to the occasion of the big game. Hopefully, with better protection from his line and better options at RB, that will change.
I’m no guru but I knew Herscel would win the Heisman after his freshman year if he stayed healthy. I’m sure I was not the only one with that hunch. Not saying he’s not a good QB. Just not a championship caliber QB. He lacks the consistent accuracy and the natural instincts. He will get better but receivers have made him look better than he really is.
You guys were fantastic all game. It’s a shame anyone had to lose that game. It entertained me far more than the Alamo Bowl because there was great defense instead of no defense. Also, it’s almost humorous how similar your postgame comments are to MSU postgame comments. It continues my thinking that we’re pretty much identical teams this year. Lost in the conference championship game to get passed in bowl selection, ridiculously good defenses with inconsistent offenses, everyone hating the O-coordinator’s playcalling, ripping on the QB’s mistakes regardless of how he’s been otherwise(I don’t know how Murray has been most of the season, but he looked solid the SEC champ game and today if not spectacular)
Thanks for being part of my favorite game of bowl season so far and good luck next year.
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But thanks, MSUDersh. I think it was the most entertaining of any we’ve seen so far, mostly because I like seeing games with actual defense being played.
was that there were several moments in the game where we could’ve avoided mistakes that we’ve made all year that would’ve gave us the lead and avoided overtime. Had we not gone for it on 4th & 1 and put in Walsh/Bogotay to kick a simple 20-or-so yard field goal, we would have had the lead and avoided overtime. Had Murray not thrown one of his interceptions, MSU would have one less touchdown and we would have won and avoided overtime.
There were several times where our defenders basically had the ball in their hands to intercept it yet dropped it, whereas MSU’s defenders capitalized on all opportunities where their defenders were right there to intercept a pass from Murray.
but then, we’ve made those mistakes all year for a reason. If they were gonna stop now, they probably would have stopped long before yesterday. But we keep making mistakes, and to be honest, there are too many differences from these mistakes and the same mistakes we made the last several years that got us in the recently emerged from (maybe) downward spiral. Complacency, failure to work hard every day, poor offensive game planning, poor offensive execution, poor QB fundamentals, poor use of the play clock, poor decision making, inability to catch, etc. It’s almost like the Boise St all over again, where it’s not just a loss, but the way we lost that is just deja vu all over again and makes you wonder if the fixes we saw during the season are actually fixed, or if they were just a mirage (or a bout of temporary sanity).
That we’ve improved on from the Boise St that’s clearly visible is our WR targets. Orson Charles got most of the passes in the first half, and in the second half Murray warmed up, with TDs to Mitchell, etc. We now have a reliable bounty of wide receivers to go to for next year, and the good thing is that 3 of them were freshmen this year that got wealthy experience, those men being Mitchell, Bennett, and Conley. Was this Tavarres King’s last game?
On a side note, a big hole to fill next year is tight end. Aron White is a senior, so he’s going to the NFL. Orson Charles may be going, assuming he’s projected to be a Top 15 pick. That leaves us Arthur Lynch, and that’s it. We should recruit a nice tight end for next year.
very, very few TEs go that high. Probably 2nd round.
And no, Tavarres King is a JR.
Also, we have Arthur Lynch and Jay Rome at TE. We also have the possibility of Trinton Sturdivant, and incoming recruit Ty Smith. That’s not enough for my liking, but I like using TEs more than Bobo apparently.
I see it as direct evidence, both with stats and the eyeball, good coaching can make an immediate impact.
I dont see Coach Lakatos running around making excuses and blaming players and needs a line on and on. He turned a horrible secondary into one of the best in the nation after one season.
there’s a reason these guys aren’t playing WR. And just for the record, we ended the year ranked 5th in total interceptions. To say we lost this game due to our lack of interceptions is just crazy. And for the record, our 3 interceptions on Sunday were twice as good as our average for the year.
UGA just made my dog cry actual tears. Very sad day.
GShock - January 2, 2012
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Bad taste to end 2011, but let’s kick some pillowy-soft schedule ass in 2012.
/narrative’d
vineyarddawg - January 2, 2012
that pic is perfect
Mr. Sanchez - January 2, 2012
Thanks J - I appreciate that.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
I am not mad
just dis-heartened. it saddens me to see such good football talent, under-coached then under-perform. The University owes more to the kids they bring into play and the fans that support the program than what is currently being done. Bobo needs not to be to OC, make room for him as an assistant or let him excel in another venue. Grantham needs to be locked up in a heartbeat. We have seen how magical our teams can be on occasion and I am just disappointed that our coaching staff cannot put a team on the field that can play a full football game
Dawg2011 - January 2, 2012
I just think that had we won that game, Richt would had more incentive to keep Bobo for 2012
Just saying
thefirstgenesis - January 2, 2012
no way....
Richt fires Bobo. If he couldn’t get rid of Willie there is no way he can get rid of Bobo.
Ozam - January 2, 2012
Especially not after we won 10 games and "played some really great teams in USC, Boise, LSU and MSU"....
GShock - January 2, 2012
Richt ain't getting rid of Bobo... not happening
If he didn’t after a 6 win season he won’t after a 10 win season.
If he does, I’ll eat my hat… And I’ll do it with a big ass grin on my face.
RedCrake - January 2, 2012 via iPhone app
we could all get together for a big hat-eating party
Cherokee's Grip - January 2, 2012
hats will be on the menu
but won’t be in danger of being devoured
Lakepoets - January 2, 2012
Yup, my hat of choice would be that thing that Russell Crowe wore in Gladiator because there's
a 0% chance that Bobo isn’t walking the sidelines next year.
GShock - January 2, 2012
the scariest part is
the fact that Grantham may says “screw it” and take his game elsewhere. You could hardly blame him. (I think the only reason he would stay is the fact that he has such a strong group coming back)
Ozam - January 2, 2012
CTG leaving is a doomsday scenario but you nail it. With Jones and the crew coming back,
he can set himself up very nicely with an improved D next year (which hopefully will be scarier and even better conditioned to bring the pain).
GShock - January 2, 2012
i just dont know
whether this loss will so piss him off that he will start entertaining offers. He has got to see the head coaching blunders as well. Taking a knee on 2nd down to kick a 42 yard field goal is just craziness. That coupled with our offensive strategy when he had a chance to win the game is troubling.
Ozam - January 2, 2012
Today's loss courtesy of
Cherokee's Grip - January 2, 2012
The ultimate energy vampire.
GShock - January 2, 2012
Man I hate Bobo.
CaptJackSparrow - January 2, 2012
It's how we lost that
makes me sad :-(
The players deserve better……………………..
What are the odds GM forces CMR to rethink the offensive staff?
JRL - January 2, 2012
the odds are none and you know it.
It would be nice of Aaron Murray could get through a game without a pick-6, however.
rbubp - January 2, 2012
Is it safe to criticize Isaiah "No Heart" Crowell yet?
rbubp - January 2, 2012
I think he has been hurt, and I hope he is immobile for 3-5 months to fully heal.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
I think his injuries may take 3-5 years.
rbubp - January 2, 2012
I dont care how many pts you score. Or how many yards.
If it comes off of big plays, without the ability to grind yards and move chains, it’s going to cost you against a quality team. It’s really that simple. We can’t “go conservative” if we can’t move chains. Otherwise, you get what happened in Atlanta and today against MSU.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Yeah
A perfect illustration of the need to just take the air out of the ball in the second half…to keep us from giving the game back in some pathetic way.
rbubp - January 2, 2012
Has there ever been a bigger vote of No Confidence in an Offense
Than what we saw in the first overtime? For that reason alone changes should be made.
How embarrassing to start prepping for the kick on SECOND freaking DOWN.
If they don’t think they can score score a touchdown from the 25 what business do they have even accepting a bowl invitation?
So saddened by what I saw. Cowards.
hbtd - January 2, 2012
The thing is, the difference between 42 and 37 is huge. We couldnt, and didnt even try, to get 5-10 yards.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
I can't think of anything I have ever seen Georgia do in a game that upset me more.
It’s a team game and BW’s teammates didn’t help put him in a position to succeed.Of course. it was foreshadowed by taking a knee at the end of the game.
hbtd - January 2, 2012
Also, its unfortunate, but what you and I see as an obvious vote of no confidence in the offense will
be chalked up by CMR & company to the “Great” defense at MSU.
GShock - January 2, 2012
Never should have been in that position to begin with
one first down in regulation from avoiding the opportunity to blow it in over-time.
Dawg2011 - January 2, 2012
Yep.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Yep. And there too, 3rd and 8 and we run it up the middle.
Why…because Murray might throw yet another pick-6?
rbubp - January 2, 2012
I'll say it here, too.
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, Walsh.
It’s not Walsh’s fault we lost, for he’s been terrible all season. He is what we thought he was.
Murray, on the other hand, is the reason we lost. He can’t beat good teams. When was the last big game he had without multiple turnovers? What a joke? He’s too mistake-prone to ever win consistently—the Romo of the SEC.
I’d like any other QB to get a shot next season, but, alas, he’ll be QB by default, like Walsh at kicker.
Jman781 - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Who's the QB coach?
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Isn't that supposed
to be his strength? He can’t even do that right.
All Murray had to do was not screw up, and he failed. Miserably.
Jman781 - January 2, 2012 via mobile
"They" say it's his strength, however,
David G and CMR were attached at the hip. Stafford was uncoachable. Now we need a QB coach, and it isnt working.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
But it is
his fault why we didn’t win. He should’ve knocked that first OT kick through. Punched it up there with no conviction at all.
DavetheDawg - January 2, 2012
He was so much better the last two years
what happened?
Mr. Sanchez - January 2, 2012
This is one of the great mysteries
of the entire season. I don’t want to disparage the kid, but something happened. I think he developed a mental block somewhere along the way. Weird.
DavetheDawg - January 2, 2012
I heard Bobo
started coaching the kickers in his spare time this season
Dawg2011 - January 2, 2012
Probably dating a XO
IdahoDawg - January 2, 2012
If we're relying on a kicker to win the game in OT with a 42 yard FG
The loss can’t be blamed on him missing. Too many other factors came into play setting him up for a G.O.A.T. or Goat situation.
The984 - January 2, 2012
I agree. If you are down to praying for a 42 yarder, you already screwed up on O, bad.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
This
The offense bogged down or screwed up way before Walsh was, well, Walsh.
Also, why were we playing for a long FG knowing who our kicker was?
Jman781 - January 2, 2012
As a preface...
let me just say that I’m pissed, and I came of age during the 90s while watching some very frustrating and pathetic UGA teams. Please keep this in mind before breaking out the ban-hammer.
ClassicCityDawg - January 2, 2012
I don't think any ban-hammers are coming out...
… for anything other than very egregious misbehavior.
I warned Chopmaster in the other thread, but he has a history, and was starting a path I didn’t want him to keep going down.
This is a venting thread… venting is expected.
vineyarddawg - January 2, 2012
I know Chop is a troll most times, but he's totally right in this case. This is going to be "Classic" Georgia as long
as CMB is our offensive coordinator. His flaws are covered sometimes by great players (Stafford, Moreno, Green, Mitchell, etc.) but he’s holding us back from ever moving forward. So shouldn’t we continue to have the discussion about eliminating his involvement at the program?
GShock - January 2, 2012
It is surely very obvious, a texbook example even, of how one coaching staff made something out of nothing
and the other made less than nothing out of nothing.
rbubp - January 2, 2012
Bobo, incredibly, seems to have mastered "making nothing out something." His something just happens to be a ton of top talent.
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
I think there will be a short "non ban" waiver.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Win this game, and we start in the top 10
We’ll be lucky to start in the top 15 now.
ClassicCityDawg - January 2, 2012
Polls don't really mean much for us.
If you go undefeated in the SEC and win the SEC Championship Game, you won’t have to worry about your ranking.
vineyarddawg - January 2, 2012
I don't think this game will have a huge impact on where we start.
If most of our defense decides to return we will probably start around 10.
midgeorgiadawg - January 2, 2012
I would rather start the season unranked and let these kids EARN every win they can, just like Alabama
thefirstgenesis - January 2, 2012
If this team, including the coaches, cared as much about the bowl as breaking curfews, I would feel better about the loss.
But the goofing off and enjoying Tampa Bay a little too much, it makes me feel like they dont care that much.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
That falls squarely on CMR
wanting the kids to live the experience of the bowl week. hmmm so does the retention of Mike Bobo
Dawg2011 - January 2, 2012
Yea, I am not happy with CMR right now either. I thought he was changing the bus.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
He changed the bus but he forgot the rules about vampires and invited Bobo inside before the season started.
GShock - January 2, 2012
I don't think that's it.
It seems to me that Murray chokes in the big games and we have no line. The problems today seem the same as the ones all season.
And Big John going out before MSU’s last drive really hurt.
hbtd - January 2, 2012
the absence of a really good RB hurt us tremendously
Lakepoets - January 2, 2012
No tailback can be successful with no blocking
against run blitzes and 5 and 6 man fronts.
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Ummm
I got nothing…Just sickened by runs up the middle and no half time adjustments…
McSlugger - January 2, 2012
Just maybe
this loss was a blessing in disguise. Our flaws have been laid out for everyone to see. If RIcht is a good coach he will make positive changes…..If not, well…….he will be the coach many wanted out at the end of last season.
We will all know early next year whether anything has changed…….fortunately, I am not holding my breath.
Ozam - January 2, 2012
I want to know in the post game interview.
CaptJackSparrow - January 2, 2012
Bobo's game plan
Make it look like you did your part but the defense wilted…………………………..
or we were in position to win but the kicker wilted……………..
I would love to interview Bobo right about now……………………
JRL - January 2, 2012
I would love to choke slam him right now.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
or send CTG after him
Cherokee's Grip - January 2, 2012
Rec'd for allowing me the mental picture of Bobo being choke slammed
Dawg2011 - January 2, 2012
ok so Scott Howard is asking Eric Zeir
obvious questions that point to Bobo’s ineptitude.
Lakepoets - January 2, 2012
no success in running. no underneath passing. no orson charles.
can you say BOBO?
Lakepoets - January 2, 2012
Here's to Boykin - whom had one of the best games I have ever seen by a Bulldog.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Won the MVP in a losing effort. He was a damn good dawg today.
GShock - January 2, 2012
Can you win the MVP in a losing effort?
Oh, wait…
Cherokee's Grip - January 2, 2012
Yes, Drew Breez against us.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
that's what I was referencing.
i guess my comment was the equivalent of CT up the middle. Ah well, it happens to the best of us;).
Cherokee's Grip - January 2, 2012
SALUTE
Ozam - January 2, 2012
Trying to remain positive...
…and it’s really hard to do, our best season in recent memory came off of an inexplicable loss to BC that was absolutely rife with poor play-calling and clock management.
ClassicCityDawg - January 2, 2012
SALUTE!
Ozam - January 2, 2012
We are not alone
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fire-Mike-Bobo/154068181290453
Dawg2011 - January 2, 2012
Confused???
I have the same feeling I had in the SEC Championship! No Adjustments. . .WHY??? 3 straight run plays to start the second half, feels like we have learned nothing from our past. FIRED MIKE DODO!!!
pierre.johnson2 - January 2, 2012
three of four losses were to top ranked defenses
Lakepoets - January 2, 2012
So what? We want to be a top 10 team, then we have to beat those teams. And, we played well for parts of those games.
So it’s the beating your head against the wall with stupid crap like running into 9 men fronts and never playing away from a defense’s strengths that kill me.
GShock - January 2, 2012
I agree completely-just pointing out that our competition is really good
and we just are not yet
Lakepoets - January 2, 2012
taking a knee on 2nd down and losing a yard has nothing to do with the competition.
Running a horrible RB off an injury up the gut has nothing to do with te competition.
This was the single worst called game I have seen.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Wow
This was yet another crappy game to me, for this is the norm, not the exception.
Jman781 - January 2, 2012
That maybe true, and if so, then double wow.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
I'm confident that the defense could shut down top offenses.
And just as confident that the offense will disappear against decent (or better) defenses.
The O just isn’t held to the same standard. We want to be the best team, right? We have a top 3 defense. The offense needs to step up. That staff has had 6 years. The D has had 2 (with 2 different ILB coaches) and is top 3.
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
This game was it
It was the perfect picture of all things that are maddening about supporting this team. I hardly have the motivation to write this post because that is how this team leaves you, completely spent and lacking the will to wipe the spittle from drooling down your chin as you drift off into a vegetable state.
Cannot just lose. No, we have to our guts ripped out and pulled some 15 yards out in front of us as Blue Duck’s wolf pups feast on our entrails. I am fully and completely on board with getting someone of the right caliber in here to run the O. That someone is NOT Bobo. He is completely and consistently outclassed. If you are Orson Charles, would you stay after today?
Munson's_Marbles - January 2, 2012
Cool Lonesome Dove reference, dude.
NRBQ - January 2, 2012
When Jon Jenkins
hauled in that pick, Bobo needed to call the game as if the game itself were on the line. He failed miserably, basically sticking to the same flawed “RSIV” up the middle crap that gave the other team a shot in which they capitalized.
But once again, this game should have never gotten to this point. Again, we gave them a gift pick-6 that followed another interception that changed the entire complexion of the game.
Hats off to Michigan State, but they didn’t beat us as much as we beat ourselves. Again.
DavetheDawg - January 2, 2012
I think where we really blew it was in not getting a TD after the Williams INT.
—though there were clearly several more opportunities to blow it that came later, and we were sure to take advantage of ALL of them.
rbubp - January 2, 2012
When we were up 16-0 and driving
I posted something to the effect that another score could ice this game. And with the way our defense was playing, I believe it would’ve.
I’ll never do that again. Ever.
DavetheDawg - January 2, 2012
They beat us man.
No whitewash. We blew it..
CaptJackSparrow - January 2, 2012
That 2 minute drill was wonderfully orchestrated by MSU
However, it never should have come down to that. Our defense was gassed, and they aren’t in any shape to go back onto the field at that point in the game. We needed a first-down, and Bobo is a damn fool if he doesn’t realize that. Come to think of it, he probably didn’t realize it, and he was just counting on Grantham to bail him out like he has all season. I apologize for the language, but I am so tired of watching all this talent on offense like a coordinated as a group of headless chickens.
ClassicCityDawg - January 2, 2012
OK-CMR just said it
“had we gotten a first down, the game would have been over.”
YOU KNOW IT-NOW DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT
Lakepoets - January 2, 2012
He'll blame it on "lack of execution"
rbubp - January 2, 2012
If he's referring to the execution of Mike Bobo
Then I agree.
(Note: Not an actual death wish.)
RJohn - January 2, 2012
I was with you until the disclaimer.
CaptJackSparrow - January 2, 2012
And he will be correct
lack of execution from his coaching staff to call a proper game
Dawg2011 - January 2, 2012
Martinez used to say the same thing about his defensive players.
Execution is a red herring. As they say, “You’re either coaching it or allowing it to happen.”
Execution is the responsibility of the coaches. Amazing how the defensive staff fixed the execution problem. Offensive staff… Still making stupid mistakes. Players making dumb mistakes. Horrible play calls. Offense shuts down when the script runs out.
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
That's exactly what I would tell him
rather like I did at the beginning of this season after the BSU debacle. You know? Well, that’s nice. So what are you going to do about it?
Cherokee's Grip - January 2, 2012
wow
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
What happened to Jenkins?
midgeorgiadawg - January 2, 2012
Mike Bobo probably had him taken out because he was playing a good game....
Ogeechee River Dawg - January 2, 2012
Other side here.
We know too well how it feels to lose a heartbreaker. Your guys played like giants all game, especially on defense.
Looking forward to watching Georgia go beast mode on the SEC next year.
lesmanalim - January 2, 2012
Thanks for the compliment
and don’t take our vents on here to paint a picture that MSU did not deserve to win. Both teams played a damn good game and the winners deserve to claim the victory. hard fought contest and good glimpses of what each team can be like next year.
Dawg2011 - January 2, 2012
MSU is a great team.
Cousins is a good person and player. Congrats.
UGAVike - January 2, 2012
hats off to MSU-hard fought victory
Lakepoets - January 2, 2012
It sucks to be on the wrong side of it...
but it’s inspiring to see a team keep fighting. We came out swinging in the first half, and y’all never gave up. Great win for y’all. Good luck next year.
Spears - January 2, 2012
Ken Malcome is the man.
That’s all.
UGAVike - January 2, 2012
And yet we decided to pull him in favor of Dick Sam IV
ClassicCityDawg - January 2, 2012
still don't understand that-he was moving the ball well
I could see it if he had fumbled or something
Lakepoets - January 2, 2012
Yup.
Malcome is an SEC caliber RB. Give him a shot, coaches.
UGAVike - January 2, 2012
Tell It Right
CMR must go if he keeps mike dodo!!!
pierre.johnson2 - January 2, 2012
Maybe Grantham refuse to sign his contract until we hire a real OC.
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Bobo's kiss-off
Not calling #7 one single time in 80 plays is a kiss-off to Charles encouraging him not to return to Athens for another season of blocking.
Blinding Whiff - January 2, 2012
good point there
Lakepoets - January 2, 2012
Agreed! Wouldn’t blame him one bit
dawgs1984 - January 2, 2012
Charles is gone, baby, gone.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Once again
No one should be shocked by anything that happened today: the turnovers by Murray, the misses by Walsh, and the horrid game plan by Bobo. We are who we thought we were.
Jman781 - January 2, 2012
If you wanna crown 'em
then go ahead and crown ’em!
Mr. Sanchez - January 2, 2012
I hope the baseball team is as good as billed...
Otherwise, it’s going to be a long offseason. I have absolutely no faith in the basketball team taking the sting away from this defeat.
ClassicCityDawg - January 2, 2012
Not sure if this has been brought up yet,
but the call on 3rd and 8 with 2:15 left bothers me as much as anything. Gutless. Go for the win. There has to be some pass play in the books that is relatively safe for that distance. And tho whole making them burn their last TO argument has no weight. 2 mins with 0 TO is equivalent to 2 mins with 1 TO because of the first down rules. Add that to the decisions in OT, and Bobo must go (and this is coming from someone who has never called for a coaches head until this moment).
kmzipsgolf - January 2, 2012
*coach's...
grammar fail in my haste.
kmzipsgolf - January 2, 2012
not calling even ONE timeout when MSU was driving it at will
in the last two minutes is indefensible
Lakepoets - January 2, 2012
Is that one on CMR or Grantham...
or both?
kmzipsgolf - January 2, 2012
BOTH
Lakepoets - January 2, 2012
CMR - which is sad
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Very sad.
I think I put 75% on CMR, as he is the head coach that can make that decision at anytime.
kmzipsgolf - January 2, 2012
oh, its been brought up. I am so freaking mad.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Good.
I just don’t understand how coaches don’t realize that. If >2 is left, go for the win because 2 minutes is really 3-4 minutes of offense by the 1st down clock rules. How does Bobo stay on staff? I’ve never heard a good justification for it other than CMR likes him.
kmzipsgolf - January 2, 2012
The fact no school wants him speaks volumes.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
i wish we could convince some school they do want him
Cherokee's Grip - January 2, 2012
#Bobo4UFOC
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Because he's never let anyone go until they made it painfully obvious they were a problem
Bobo still has excuses left in the tank justifying his stay.
Mr. Sanchez - January 2, 2012
Well I wish that tank was empty now.
kmzipsgolf - January 2, 2012
A grand culmination of the same old crap from Bobo
Well, I am SO sad to say that I am not shocked at all about how angry I feel about this loss. Now my only real concern…. losing a number of potential great recruits because they see how they will be coached
PugetDawg - January 2, 2012
Bulldog Bullcrap
Its sad that next year talented young athletes will play their hearts out. Sadly mark,mike and murray will still be there
longrod - January 2, 2012
Out With Bobo
I had planned to have fine dinner tonight to savor the victory… Instead, I will drowned in Bud Lite and R&R…..I did manage to start a re-port on facebook to get Bobo removed…Thats the best I can off right now….
Ogeechee River Dawg - January 2, 2012
I need one of those little green guys to smoke
longrod - January 2, 2012
Although I don't wish him ill...
Mark Richt is the reason. From running on first down from the two with 20 +/- seconds to go and no time outs against Auburn in his first year to today’s refusal to even trying for a 1st down with three attempts available from the 25 yard line in OT (leaving all to a a kicker who had missed 12 times), Richt has proven his inability to think and get the best out of his players for years. If his teams can’t overwhelm opponents with sheer talent; he can’t win.
AntiRicht - January 2, 2012
Did you just register to post that comment?
ClassicCityDawg - January 2, 2012
Why yes, Yes he did
Dawg2011 - January 2, 2012
You're not going to get an audience on this, "AntiRicht".
We lost a bowl game and it sucks. But signing up to spew ain’t gonna happen.
DavetheDawg - January 2, 2012
This is your formal warning AntiRicht, signing up with that name to flame, you're done. Just shut up now.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
I don't understand?
What is wrong with it? I am anti bobo.
CaptJackSparrow - January 2, 2012
When you sign up day, er, minute of with an inflammatory handle.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Thats the part I don't understand.
Why is AntiRicht inflammatory? It seems to express dudes or dudettes opinion of Richt. I was just wondering what was wrong with the handle itself.
CaptJackSparrow - January 2, 2012
Timing + Comments = Troll
Mr. Sanchez - January 2, 2012
yea
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
I thought it was just about the handle.
I see.
CaptJackSparrow - January 2, 2012
aHHH
CaptJackSparrow - January 2, 2012
Don't bash richt on this blog
These guys won’t stand for it. But say anything you want about bobo. I’m just saying.
IdahoDawg - January 2, 2012
Again with the "don't ever say something bad about (Kyle or Mark Richt)" meme.
What no one is ever allowed to say is a personal attack against another commenter or moderator. Criticism of Richt is just as welcome as criticism of Bobo. You just have to be able to support your argument when others come around to take the other side.
We do not allow descents into yelling and name-calling. We actively encourage debate and discussion, however. If you want to criticize Mark Richt, then go right ahead.
(waits)
vineyarddawg - January 2, 2012
This is truth IdahoDawg - you can fire up rants against CMR.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Also, for the record, AntiRicht cannot respond to your comment...
… because he is banned.
The comment that got him banned has been hidden, so it’s not visible to everyone, but he was asking for it. Literally.
vineyarddawg - January 2, 2012
Well that clears up a lot.
I didn’t think the post did see was that bad.
CaptJackSparrow - January 3, 2012
I sure would like to see it though.
So I know what not to say.
CaptJackSparrow - January 3, 2012
Don't say please ban me
Mr. Sanchez - January 3, 2012
LOL Gotcha. :)
CaptJackSparrow - January 3, 2012
Daft Punk called, and wants their helmets back.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
That's a reference to he rose bowl
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
I think those are the second-worst helmets
I’ve ever seen Oregon wear.
Cherokee's Grip - January 2, 2012
You know, I heart you for getting my references.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
I try.
These, of course, still take first place, I think:
Cherokee's Grip - January 2, 2012
Looks they their score will total 1000 if they dont quit scoring...lol
Ogeechee River Dawg - January 2, 2012
It's bad enough
That we gave up on the OT possession. But what makes it worse is that we moved the ball to the right for a kicker who’s been pushing kicks to the right ALL. YEAR. LONG.
If that kick’s from the left hash, it’s good. If that kick’s from three yards closer in, it’s good.
RJohn - January 2, 2012
Bobo deserves every animadversion. . .
. . . but aren’t we giving the defense a bit of a pass? We were winning 27 to 20 when we let the Spartans drive it 85 yards with nary a hiccup for the tie. How can a defense that held them to 72 yards of total offense and eight three-and-out drives in the first half let that happen?
College Buddy - January 2, 2012
The failure to move the chains, and only score on a big play is solely on the O.
Pts off of INTs – 6. Think about that.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Let me add - tons of stats about our 1st downs and red zone
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Fair enough. . .
. . . but all that had already happened by that point. All we had to do was stop them. Egad, they started on their 15! Not excusing the offensive shortcomings, but I just don’t see why we couldn’t inhibit them just a little on that last drive in regulation.
College Buddy - January 2, 2012
What worries me is that CTG has gotta want outta this deal...
Pairing him with Bobo is like pairing a concert pianist with a tone-deaf person trying to sing…
If I were Grantham I would give Richt an ultimatum, either bozo goes or he (grantham) goes. I feel bad for CTG having to put up with this crap.
Ed Wilson - January 2, 2012
Boy, Do I ever agree..... Defense won us lots more games than the offense did....
Ogeechee River Dawg - January 2, 2012
I feel the worst for Boykin
He played his heart out, but the offense kept hanging him and the defense out to dry.
ClassicCityDawg - January 2, 2012
He was one of the biggest sparks on offense too....God Mike Bobo sux's !!!!
Ogeechee River Dawg - January 2, 2012
feel ripped off?
Haven’t had a secs to read comments so pardon if preaching to the choir. FUCK! THIS! SHIT!!!! Good job Michigan State, if we’d have won I’d be the first to congratulate u on a great game. Now I’m too pissed to see passed our glaring failures. Dammit Georgia! When will u perform to your potential?
Dawg Quixote - January 2, 2012 via iPhone app
when you catch up on the comments
you will find your answer….when Bobo is replaced by a competent OC
Dawg2011 - January 2, 2012
The whitewash:
The teams to which we lost were ranked second, ninth, twelfth, and thirteenth in scoring defense and second, fourth, fifth, and eighteenth in total defense. On average, we rang up 82.365 more yards and 7.62 more points than those teams allowed. In other words, we’re an above average offense. Get ready to hear this excuse.
We have top 20 talent but only produced a top 40 offense. It’s an obvious problem with an obvious solution.
Spears - January 2, 2012
So you're saying we need to recruit down to have top 40 talent so that they seem right for a top 40 offense?
The984 - January 2, 2012
Stop playing good defenses?
Mr. Sanchez - January 2, 2012
I love ya bro
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
How off base am I....
to wonder why Murray is deified during and after two seasons where he repeatedly turns the ball over in KEY situations and loses all the big games? Yes, he plays VERY well during a lot of games but why is he the chosen one? Just the stats??
Are Mason and Lemay that bad that they arent even given any real time in games? Am I crazy to think our defense got demoralized after all of Murray’s turnovers?
PugetDawg - January 2, 2012
Lemay will be the real deal.
However, there is a reason you only see Mason in garbage time. Do you remember how good Joe Cox looked in similar situations? The result of starting Hutson would probably be about the same.
ClassicCityDawg - January 2, 2012
I honestly dont know
Since I have not seen Mason do anything terrible in televised games and have not seen practices, can anyone tell me why he isnt given a chance? Does he have a track record of INTs or bad game decisions? What has Mason done to run him off to another team?
PugetDawg - January 2, 2012
Mason doesn't stare down like Cox did
Mr. Sanchez - January 2, 2012
and didn't Bobo say...
"He’s got an uncanny ability to hit the open receiver,"??
PugetDawg - January 2, 2012
who knew Bobo
had the ability to recognize uncanny ability?
Cherokee's Grip - January 2, 2012
Who knew Bobo could call plays where receivers get open
aside from busted coverages or simply outrunning the DBs.
Mr. Sanchez - January 2, 2012
Bet Murray would look much better with a good OC.
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Except if Bobo left...
we’d probably hire Brian Schoettenheimer. Or Patrick Nix.
Mr. Sanchez - January 2, 2012
He would look better with a better line
He just doesn’t make reads quickly enough to perform under pressure.
hbtd - January 2, 2012 via mobile
He is what, 20 years old?
UGAVike - January 2, 2012
There are plays that you can call that require a ton of time and incredibly quick decision-making.
I promise you that these QBs (Keenum, Thomas, Kellen Moore, all the Leach QBs, etc) aren’t smarter and more talented than Murray.
Newton and Tebow had success passing in college too. Their threat to run helped them. But it was also their OC putting them in position to succeed.
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
I didn't say that as nicely as a could
Quick reads are not AM’s strength. Because of the line he is forced to quick reads. How many times did he not see wide open receivers today?
He looks like a world class QB when we play patsies who we can block.
Maybe the play calling should accommodate the pour line play, but in the end we need better line play.
hbtd - January 2, 2012
This is true, but yet there are still the mindless 3 and outs.........
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
"pour" line play
Freudian slip.
hbtd - January 2, 2012
lol
UGAVike - January 2, 2012
Bobo?? What??
Hey I wish Bobo was gone too but they did not score 33 pts on our offence (only 6) our defence crumbled time after time in the second half and they drove approx 70 yards to the goal line in like 40 seconds. Without doubt a bad called game but we had this and the defense went limp.
wehutch - January 2, 2012
You must have not watched alot of the game......Our offense sucked .....
Ogeechee River Dawg - January 2, 2012
the play calling sucked
longrod - January 2, 2012
Dude -
Our D gave the O the ball on the 10 – for a FG
Our D got an INT in OT with only a FG needed for a win – and we kneeled the ball.
Come back to reality.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
we kneeled the ball for a 2 yard loss
after we’d wasted a down on a 2 yard CT run. If that was going to be the strategy, why not give our incompetent kicker multiple downs in which to kick?
Cherokee's Grip - January 2, 2012
No, im with you but............
but should not this 3rd ranked defense in the land have some of the blame here, I mean look at the wide open guys, again 70 yard in approx 40 seconds.. yes the off sucked so bad but in two games this defense has started great and went wet noddle in the second half of the two Biggest games of the year. Both units should share this loss.
wehutch - January 2, 2012
Agreed...
they got carved up like a turkey in the second half. That can’t be blamed on Bobo.
Mr. Sanchez - January 2, 2012
law of averages
Let your offense put your defense in bad situations enough times and the #1 defense in the land will eventually get tired and/or demoralized to the point that horrible things happen.
I stand by CTG and the D without hesitation or question
PugetDawg - January 2, 2012
I agree
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Our offense hung our defense out to dry.
Our D was on the field for a long, long time in the second half. Could our D have made more plays? Yeah, sure, but blaming them for the loss is a little unfair.
Spears - January 2, 2012
I heart you bro
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
A bunch of 3 and outs...
and stupid turnovers (plus an offense that not only isn’t scoring but is GIVING THE OTHER TEAM POINTS) is a recipe for a defensive meltdown.
The Steelers D probably would’ve worn down if they were backing up our offense today.
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Blocking
What’s next years recruiting class look like in regards to offensive linemen? Never seen a UGA O-line dominated like I did today.
dawgs1984 - January 2, 2012
excellent
UGAVike - January 2, 2012
I think our OL approach may be flawed
We have huge guys that can’t move. The two MSU guys ate our lunch all day long with quickness. Boise did the same thing. Our huge guys may actually be to big – see TS and the three knee’s and all the other leg issues we have evey year.
JRL - January 2, 2012
Any Update on Jenkins?
midgeorgiadawg - January 2, 2012
Van Gorder and Grantham
I think what is frequently forgotten is without Van Gorder, Richt never survives the first five years and without Grantham he doesn’t survive the last two. Richt is an okay head coach with a great D coordinator because he is sooooo frigging conservative. Playing not to lose is the surest way to lose.
If Grantham leaves Richt has no one to blame but himself………..
Ozam - January 2, 2012
and back into the malaise we go.................
Ozam - January 2, 2012
Step away from the ledge
We just lost a game we should have won twice. Grantham isn’t going anywhere next season.
DavetheDawg - January 2, 2012
no jumping here!
just that I’ve seen a lot of good and bad the last 35 years. I feel like the last five or six have been purgatory or worst. Very few wins against top 15 teams.
I got nothing against Richt, I just don’t think he has the stones to be a champion.
Ozam - January 2, 2012
against a great team, no less.
UGAVike - January 2, 2012
This one just left a really bad taste in my mouth
This feels about like the South Carolina game in the sense that we just gave it away. What’s worse is the fact that we have to wait 8 months for any form of redemption.
ClassicCityDawg - January 2, 2012
I for one
will take this loss and 8 months of stewing with open arms, if it means Bobo goes… that is redemption in my book
PugetDawg - January 2, 2012
He won't go
If he were going to be fired, it would have happened before the bowl game. We’ll have to suffer through at least one more year with Bobo as our OC.
ClassicCityDawg - January 2, 2012
Did anyone catch the post game interview?
I saw a snippet about the “if we had gotten a first down”, but was there anymore words of wisdom coming from CMR?
Dawg2011 - January 2, 2012
please, Please, PLEASE...........
Please lets dont start the negative vib and put our Head Coach on the hot seat again just because of this loss 9LIKE LAST YEAR). It will really hurt recruiting and the great vib for next year. As a fan base leSt be as supportive as possible and spead the word to do so…..
wehutch - January 2, 2012
you are right.......
but let’s not stick our heads in the sand. We lost four games to four very good teams this year. How many very good teams did we beat? Anyone?
Ozam - January 2, 2012
Wow, Really
Okay, that’s it… I have been a loyal Georgia fan for over 35 years. I went through the Dooley years and all the subsequent coaches. I have watched from great distances being in the USAF for 23 years. I have watched the ups and downs (seems mostly downs, especially when talking about Florida (at least we beat them this year, but only because they were down)), but I have had enough! Mike Bobo has to go! Our defense was great, but got worn out because they couldn’t get off the field. Living in Lousiana now, I will be a LA Tech fan due to family attending there. At least there my expectations will be in check. I’ll be watching again as soon as Bobo leaves. Good luck to you Georgia.
Kenneth Webb - January 2, 2012
see ya...
and dont bother coming back,
wehutch - January 2, 2012
Where do you get the right to say something like that? You got 5 comments.
Maybe build up your own reputation before telling people “see ya.”
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
# of comments =/= bulldog fandom
I echo his sentiments.
UGAVike - January 2, 2012
UGAVike, our job is to mod. And we got it.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Scoring?? lol
Sorry if that hurt but just not into “Fair/Good Weather Fans” I would never swap to another team because mine is not doing well. Thats all, sorry I was under the impression that all comments were open and not restricted to a “reputation”. Honestly I did not mean it in a totally negative way.
wehutch - January 2, 2012
The issue is, you arent in the position to tell people "don't bother coming back."
Both due to not being a mod, and not having any established reputation.
The mods will do the moderating.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
UGA not the forum....
I was talking about coming back as a UGA fan not this forum. Geezz
wehutch - January 2, 2012
Again, you said "see ya, don't bother coming back."
That is not your place. Either you get this, or you don’t.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
I promise.........
be asured that I am not mod’ing your forum and I promise I did not mean the forum, I am new to this and I did mean come back as a “UGA fan”.He said he was leaving as a Fan and that is what I responded to. But I do get it and I will be more carefull in the future…….. Thanks
wehutch - January 2, 2012
Fair enough. Glad to have you here.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Thanks
I found this site this year and love it, the Pod cast is the Best Too!! Thanks
wehutch - January 2, 2012
UGA
I was talking about coming back as a UGA fan not this forum. Geezz
wehutch - January 2, 2012
Been back, year after year
Wehutch, been here probably before you were born; however, you yourself have to admit the poor showing of the offense, which is squarely on Mike Bobo. I’m good with CMR, and would hate to lose him, but Bobo is going to take him down with him. I would be happier with Richt calling the plays from the sidelines. We need some decisiveness, nuff said. Take care and have a great year!
Kenneth Webb - January 2, 2012
Kenneth Webb, let us do the mod'n please.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Got it, thanks
Yes sir, but thanks for allowing my opinion. I’m sure once I get over my “mad spell” I will have on all my Ga gear, as always. Heck, my wife just bought me a GA leather jacket last year… What would I do with that if I rellay gave up on ’em. Thanks guys!
Kenneth Webb - January 2, 2012
all cool
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
100%...
…AGREED, byby bobo. sound good to me.
wehutch - January 2, 2012
Does anyone have Bobo's email address
and would be so kind to forward this link to him
http://www.hbu.edu/hbu/Head_Football_Coach.asp?SnID=2
Dawg2011 - January 2, 2012
there are also chances to excel as the:
FOOTBALL OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR / ASSISTANT TRACK COACH – BETHEL COLLEGE (KAN)
HEAD FOOTBALL COACH – MIDLAND UNIVERSITY (Neb.)
Just trying to help a qualified candidate find his right place in the work force
Dawg2011 - January 2, 2012
Seriously!
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
I think we all need to take a breath
and think of how much of this was really Mike Bobo’s fault. Don’t get me wrong, I was no fan of his playcalling today, however, it’s hard to play good offense when your QB turns it over every time his number is called and the offensive line cant open a hole all day, much less pass protect. If you look at this years team, you see improvement to last years, yes even the offense. Not to mention, this was our first year under Will Friend as the Offensive line coach. I think considering the situation he was given(4 guards and a center, no tackles, no depth, injuries, etc.), he coached our line up fairly well. Not to mention he had to implement a much different system (Drive blocking from zone blocking before) and all with recruits from Stacy Searels. He’s shown the ability to recruit elite lineman in his first year and I believe we’ll see improvement. You have to remember, football is won in the trenches regardless of how good your skill players are. Once he has a solid offensive line to work with, then we can see what bobo really is as a coordinator. We’re not too far off, just try to have patience
Dawgs013 - January 2, 2012
Who is responsible for the offense? Not just play calling,
but offensive coordination? This concept “if we have a great line and QB and RB then we can see about CMB” is a falacy. CMB is the OC. All OC falls to him.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
But he has little control over the circumstances hes put in
OC’s are rarely responsible for the line. Look at alabama, great line+ average coordinator= solid offense. You can ask around and find that Stacy Searels was a terrible O-line Coach, check out Texas’ line from this year. No trenches will never win you a game
Dawgs013 - January 2, 2012
Ok, so CTG is fully responsible for the D and the D line and the recruiting, but CMB is only partially responsible for the O?
That doesnt fly in any business or military model.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Im just saying
its not all on bobo, there are others accountable. There’s no reason for fans to berate him with the attacks they do regardless, but bobo didnt lose the game, the UGA bulldogs did. Bobo’s a heck of a qb coach and an even better recruiter. If all we need to do is give the line a chance to improve, then its worth hanging on to bobo IMO
Dawgs013 - January 2, 2012
How is he a "heck of a QB coach?" If ever we needed a QB coach, it's now. AM has been coached down, not up.
Bobo is responsible for all things on offense. The offense has been stagnant and failed to even get a mere first down in critical situations. Richard Samuel to the corner? That’s Bobo’s lack of vision for talent. Bobo is a recruiter? Recruit whom? Richt recruits the QBs. And if Bobo is a “better recruiter” then why are we so then on O Line? Bobo is the OC. He is responsible for the O. The lack of depth on O falls on his shoulders.
Apply the same standards to the OC you do to the DC and see what shakes out.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
See also...
Joe Cox, who after 5 years under Bobo was a turnover machine, and worse as a SR than as a FR. Or Matt Stafford, who had a huge arm, but saw very little development besides natural maturation as he got older and played more games over his 3 year stint.
I’m with you, I have not seen much to make me confident in Bobo the QB coach.
Mr. Sanchez - January 2, 2012
Because Bobo likes the deep ball, which is a low percentage pass, and unless you are Stafford, a high percentage INT.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Odd...
Bobo gets all the hate but it was Murray who turned it over three times. The last two passes were pitiful. Murray is inconsistent. The o-line can’t block. If you can’t run the ball and the QB is prone to have meltdowns it’s not a good combination.
mdhenshaw - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Rec'd
Dawgs013 - January 2, 2012
Who is the person hired to figure out recruiting on O, strengths and weakness, pros and cons?
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
and...
who is paid to make offensive adjustments at halftime, coach the QB how NOT to make terrible throws and stare down the receiver, AND go with what works – not call plays away from what is already working?
PugetDawg - January 2, 2012
And...
I’d be shocked if Bobo has no say in his staff and who they target.
If Bobo wanted a specific OL coach, he probably would’ve gotten him. But since he’s only been away from UGA for one year ever (as QB coach at Jacksonville St.), I bet that he doesnt know anyone to hire anyway.
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
We have a first year O line coach
You have to give him more than a year to fix what searels created
Dawgs013 - January 2, 2012
The problems on O line are 20 years running. It's on CMR and CMB.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
No team is going to have an outstanding offense every season. Our fate is tied to Murray. The word is out. If you get pressure on Murray he’ll make a couple of terrible mistakes a game. That’s the story is his career so far.
In the past we’ve lost because or defense sucked. The offense is only as great as the QB. Murray is a big question mark.
mdhenshaw - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Not just Murray.
If I faced a Bobo-coached UGA offense, I’d blitz every single down. Bobo has no idea what to do and doesn’t coach his QB to take advantage to the blitz either.
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Murray is a RS Sophomore.
This was his last game in year 3 (year 2 playing and starting every game).
That’s 4 years of college coaching. Either Murray is uncoachable/lazy/stupid/incapable or his coach is letting him down/not putting him in position to succeed.
I think he’s a smart, hard-working, talented QB. So, I think Bobo is letting him down.
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Possibly
Murray’s problem is he tries too hard sometimes—forcing passes or not going down at the right time on scrambles. A good QB coach would see these flaws and correct them.
Jman781 - January 2, 2012
I think Bobo had Greene, Shockley, and Stafford.
Those guys kinda negate the need to “coach them up”.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Why is Richt in love with him so much?
I don’t think he’s blind or stupid, so what’s the deal? Serious question.
Jman781 - January 2, 2012
I think Murray is our best option.
Just needs his bad habits coached out of him.
I don’t know why that hasn’t happened. He’s improved… But should’ve improved more.
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Sorry
Referring to Bobo. What does Richt see in him?
Jman781 - January 2, 2012
I have no idea.
exasperated sigh
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via iPhone app
Plus, Richt was really involved in all of those guys' careers. Especially Shockley and Greene.
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Here's the deal...
Florida fans are in denial about this as well. Sometimes the QB isn’t as good as advertised. Some people can’t be coached up. What are you supposed to do when the QB fumbles over and over on his side of the field or the QB throws INTs at inopportune times.
You can try to run the ball to take it out of his hands, but have you looked at our backfield?
mdhenshaw - January 2, 2012
When your QB throws the worst INTs you can imagine - but also has a TD record, things get, well, screwed up to hell.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
What’s so maddening about Murray is that his all the attributes to be the best QB in the NCAA. Then he has moments where his passes are awful.
I know he’s under pressure, but sometimes I wonder if he can take it.
mdhenshaw - January 2, 2012
So
You’re saying it was execution?
Jman781 - January 2, 2012
Can we just call that "The Martinez Excuse" from here on out?
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Admittedly
If each play was performed to perfection, we’d win 100 to zip.
Jman781 - January 2, 2012
So, did Boykin win MVP?
hbtd - January 2, 2012 via mobile
yes, he was selected as the MVP for the game
Dawg2011 - January 2, 2012
He deserved it. I just never heard. Thanks.
hbtd - January 2, 2012
For the newcomers - we are happy to have you here and your participation, but if you start trying to mod, please dont.
Feel free to vent and state your opinion, but stay out of the mod business at DS. This is for all our good.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Post Game?
where is the best place to view the post game Press and Etc?
wehutch - January 2, 2012
Bill King just posted
this, here are the highlights:
He also talks about Crowell and Walsh, but nails Bobo to the wall
Dawg2011 - January 2, 2012
That about sums it up.
hbtd - January 2, 2012
Once again
If we see this, why doesn’t CMR?
Jman781 - January 2, 2012
The vast majority of sports media says the same thing about our offense.
Why don’t we just fix it? (profane words left out, but I was feeling them)
DocSkraynj - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Because we aren't in the arena
ClassicCityDawg - January 2, 2012
Sad Day
I have been a rabid Dawgs fan for over 40 years, I have seen us fall into disarray and come out of it. But with the talent we have, and the talent Georgia has coming we have no excuses for playing poorly. Today I just knew that we could not hold the lead, I had that gut feeling. We have the talent to compete in the top tier of the SEC but we have to realize as footballs fans that is not going to happen with the current staff we have, mostly Bobo. We need to look at Alabama and LSU and figure out what they are doing and get that winning tradition back. Today I was so mad I just wanted to hit something. We as fans, supporters and boosters need to change something and quick.
Dawg Days - January 2, 2012
Agreed
That’s all I was venting about. I been a LOYAL “Too many t-shirts” GA fan for many years also, throughout my years in the AF that put me in many not too receptive of GA fans places; especially now being in the middle of LSU territory. But something has to change with our footbal team or we are destined to be another Kentucky or Vandy. We need to OWN the East again, but right now we can’t…
Kenneth Webb - January 2, 2012
There is no such thing
as too many Bulldog T-shirts.
Cherokee's Grip - January 2, 2012
Florida lost to Michigan the season before winning a national championship. Alabama lost to Utah. In the grand scheme of things this game is meaningless.
The team needs to work to get better.
mdhenshaw - January 2, 2012
Man, I know the history, and I honestly believe bowl games are fickle, but I dont see it at meaningless.
I saw all our weaknesses laid out on a table pure and clear.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
It’s sometimes easier to work on weaknesses when you see them. At 16-0 we were close to running away with the game and not addressing the issue.
For 2012, the UGA model should be the Alabama NC team. Focus on not making mistakes. If the offense quits turning the ball over we’ll be fine.
mdhenshaw - January 2, 2012
Down with
Derp!
Jman781 - January 2, 2012
If you follow my posts -
You know I was never comfortable at 16-0. When 9 of your 16 pts come from your CB, and the other 7 from a bomb, your O is not grinding.
Well, there is that, and the lack of ability to make first downs.
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Firm believer that an average offense
will excel when playing with a superior defense; and a superior defense will fail with a less than average offense
Dawg2011 - January 2, 2012
"First Downs are Overrated"
Apparently this is the first paragraph of “Principles of Coaching Football” by Mike Bobo. I haven’t read it yet, but that’s what I’ve been told.
GShock - January 2, 2012
Don't think of it as meaningless, think of it as a motivation tool
Mr. Sanchez - January 2, 2012
I refuse to write off this loss
Yes, it doesnt mean a ton in rankings but the recruiting implications could be large. Also, it strengthens the arguments against Richt which are unfortunate
PugetDawg - January 2, 2012
i will stand by UGA forever
and my disappointment today is not my way of abandoning the red and black by any stretch. I do believe however this is the time of year for actionable plans to build the program. They begin by analyzing your losses…. and this was a VERY frustrating one.
GO DAWGS… today and forever!
PugetDawg - January 2, 2012
Thanks
Well said, mdhenshaw, those are good point and great comments. Forget today and lets get behind these young men for next year. Go Dawgs!!!
wehutch - January 2, 2012
good point
a win might have justified we were on the right track and good enough. A lost might be just the kick in the crotch we need to keep working hard to get butter.
Mr. Sanchez - January 2, 2012
Dave is all about getting butter!
tankertoad - January 2, 2012
Paula Deen, too.
GShock - January 2, 2012
Who's got two thumbs and loves to get butter?
Mr. Sanchez - January 2, 2012
hey georgia fans this is a msu fan. dont worry im not trolling you or anything thats
for the u of m wolverines. i just want to give my appreciation on such a great game. you guys were by far one of our toughest challenges of the year. that guy i think his name is boykins or something he wears 2 is a beast of a player and hes gonna do great things for u guys. oh and as a detroit lions fan i want to thank you for developing matt stafford into the great qb he is
Alex Baker - January 2, 2012
For some crazy reason
My high school aged son is a MSU fan. Think it had to do with Drew Nietzel (?). We were 100% Dogs today, but hope y’all have a good hoops season.
hbtd - January 2, 2012
Amazing...
Wisconsin’s OC calls a pass play on first down….what a concept!! And they score
dawgs1984 - January 2, 2012
Waht is so frustrating...is...
that this game closing coaching perfromance was so very predictable. The part that killed me was watching Franken Samuel IV run 3 flailing runs into the line with the game on the line for the offense to salt away. I give Samuel credit for showing up in the 4th against a tired and less than top talented UF squad and finishing that game, but he has never been able to gain more than a yard and a half against a D-line of substance. I know all of the old fears adn conservative adages about not turning the ball over late in the game with a lead, but MY GOSH!!!!!…running the ball did not work all day. Why not dink and dunk or at least line in the shotgun? I have not much to say about special teams. With the same special teams we fielded the tow previous seasons, we would have another two wins on the year.
Maybe losing will keep the squad dissatisfied adn secure them all returning. Also, perhaps this will land us ranked 12th or 13th behing SC and give us a chance of sneaking up on some teams on the way to BCS push.
Caniac233 - January 2, 2012
i was optimistically thinking the same
but I may be delusional …..we lost to the four good teams we played this year and Aaron Murray has not shown an ability to beat a really good team in two years.
Ozam - January 2, 2012
So where can I find the page....
that talks about scheming All-SEC tight ends out of the game plan?
Law Dawg - January 2, 2012
Still can't understand why we kept trying to run it up the middle with #99 waiting like a brick wall.
My son says he is an All American. Seems like we would have been aware of that ahead of time and planned accordingly.
hbtd - January 2, 2012
What is this planning of which you speak?
Cherokee's Grip - January 2, 2012
Is it just me
or does being a Bulldog fan mean your nerves have to be shot out all season long, just when you start to feel optimistic about the team they collapse, the coaching staff makes inexplicable play calls, or the QB throws pick sixes?
wierd flunky - January 2, 2012
Sad, but unfortunately becoming typical
This was another pathetically coached game. I knew the loss was imminent when we kneeled the ball with 19 seconds left. Unbelievable! We played to not lose rather than playing to win. So much for the CMR “victory watch” and Richt saving Christmas. CMR is a good man and a good role model and i do believe that is important. But lets face it, he’s too nice to get rid of Bobo and he doesn’t have the instincts to take us to a level of greatness. Unless McGarrity gets some fire in his belly, bulldog nation will just have to get comfortable with mediocre winning seasons that end with the occasional sec championship. No worries though, this mediocrity will continue to pad CMR’s victory total. That will make plenty of bulldogs happy and content.
IdahoDawg - January 2, 2012
I refuse to be delusional anymore........
Tossing aside the great run in the later half of 2007, how many quality opponents have we defeated in the last five years? How often have we been on the wrong side of a beat down?
As much as I hate to say this, the reality of the situation is that we are just a decent mid tier football team with lots of NFL caliber talent.
A sad statement for sure….but true.
Ozam - January 2, 2012
Learned behavior
How CMR and CMB continue to go with AM truly is a mystery. We will never win a championship with him. He’s a choker. I blame Bobo’s – safe mode – as a lack of confidence in himself as a play caller and his lack of confidence in AM to make the right decisions and not self destruct.. This lack of confidence shows and in turn his offense draws off of that feeling. As we’ve seen sooo many times, the feeling of how are we gonna screw it up this time. NO GUTS, NO GLORY. Both CMB and AM lack this and I’m not sure if CMR has not joined the club.
chillydawg - January 2, 2012
lololololol
I like judging players halfway through their playing careers, too.
UGAVike - January 2, 2012
You're right UGAVike, that he is still young.
But so far he has not shown any ability to rise to the occasion of the big game. Hopefully, with better protection from his line and better options at RB, that will change.
hbtd - January 2, 2012
Herschel
I’m no guru but I knew Herscel would win the Heisman after his freshman year if he stayed healthy. I’m sure I was not the only one with that hunch. Not saying he’s not a good QB. Just not a championship caliber QB. He lacks the consistent accuracy and the natural instincts. He will get better but receivers have made him look better than he really is.
chillydawg - January 2, 2012
bad passes
he threw a lot of them today
IdahoDawg - January 2, 2012
MSU fan here in peace
You guys were fantastic all game. It’s a shame anyone had to lose that game. It entertained me far more than the Alamo Bowl because there was great defense instead of no defense. Also, it’s almost humorous how similar your postgame comments are to MSU postgame comments. It continues my thinking that we’re pretty much identical teams this year. Lost in the conference championship game to get passed in bowl selection, ridiculously good defenses with inconsistent offenses, everyone hating the O-coordinator’s playcalling, ripping on the QB’s mistakes regardless of how he’s been otherwise(I don’t know how Murray has been most of the season, but he looked solid the SEC champ game and today if not spectacular)
Thanks for being part of my favorite game of bowl season so far and good luck next year.
hascow - January 2, 2012
Thanks, hascow.
Your guys played a great game. Congrats on the win.
vineyarddawg - January 2, 2012
Thanks… Murray was far from spectacular. His three turnovers were as much a product of bad decisions as great MSU defense.
mdhenshaw - January 2, 2012
Great game today
MSUDersh - January 2, 2012
Supposed to be #2 is a beast
Not sure how it became thar
MSUDersh - January 2, 2012
You may thank SB Nation's autoformatting pseudo-language. :-)
But thanks, MSUDersh. I think it was the most entertaining of any we’ve seen so far, mostly because I like seeing games with actual defense being played.
vineyarddawg - January 2, 2012
What was so disappointing to me
was that there were several moments in the game where we could’ve avoided mistakes that we’ve made all year that would’ve gave us the lead and avoided overtime. Had we not gone for it on 4th & 1 and put in Walsh/Bogotay to kick a simple 20-or-so yard field goal, we would have had the lead and avoided overtime. Had Murray not thrown one of his interceptions, MSU would have one less touchdown and we would have won and avoided overtime.
There were several times where our defenders basically had the ball in their hands to intercept it yet dropped it, whereas MSU’s defenders capitalized on all opportunities where their defenders were right there to intercept a pass from Murray.
ChopMaster - January 3, 2012
Good points
but then, we’ve made those mistakes all year for a reason. If they were gonna stop now, they probably would have stopped long before yesterday. But we keep making mistakes, and to be honest, there are too many differences from these mistakes and the same mistakes we made the last several years that got us in the recently emerged from (maybe) downward spiral. Complacency, failure to work hard every day, poor offensive game planning, poor offensive execution, poor QB fundamentals, poor use of the play clock, poor decision making, inability to catch, etc. It’s almost like the Boise St all over again, where it’s not just a loss, but the way we lost that is just deja vu all over again and makes you wonder if the fixes we saw during the season are actually fixed, or if they were just a mirage (or a bout of temporary sanity).
Mr. Sanchez - January 3, 2012
One good thing
That we’ve improved on from the Boise St that’s clearly visible is our WR targets. Orson Charles got most of the passes in the first half, and in the second half Murray warmed up, with TDs to Mitchell, etc. We now have a reliable bounty of wide receivers to go to for next year, and the good thing is that 3 of them were freshmen this year that got wealthy experience, those men being Mitchell, Bennett, and Conley. Was this Tavarres King’s last game?
On a side note, a big hole to fill next year is tight end. Aron White is a senior, so he’s going to the NFL. Orson Charles may be going, assuming he’s projected to be a Top 15 pick. That leaves us Arthur Lynch, and that’s it. We should recruit a nice tight end for next year.
ChopMaster - January 3, 2012
I doubt Orson is top 15
very, very few TEs go that high. Probably 2nd round.
And no, Tavarres King is a JR.
Also, we have Arthur Lynch and Jay Rome at TE. We also have the possibility of Trinton Sturdivant, and incoming recruit Ty Smith. That’s not enough for my liking, but I like using TEs more than Bobo apparently.
Mr. Sanchez - January 3, 2012
Isn't he projected 2 at TE behind Allen?
hbtd - January 3, 2012
The fact our CBs are in position is a marked improvement actually, and we were 2nd (3rd?) in the nation in INTs.
tankertoad - January 3, 2012
The difference in our secondary from "the dark days" is stunning.
hbtd - January 3, 2012
I see it as direct evidence, both with stats and the eyeball, good coaching can make an immediate impact.
I dont see Coach Lakatos running around making excuses and blaming players and needs a line on and on. He turned a horrible secondary into one of the best in the nation after one season.
tankertoad - January 3, 2012
As someone seated behind me noted,
there’s a reason these guys aren’t playing WR. And just for the record, we ended the year ranked 5th in total interceptions. To say we lost this game due to our lack of interceptions is just crazy. And for the record, our 3 interceptions on Sunday were twice as good as our average for the year.
AcworthDawg - January 4, 2012
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